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 1   Forum Notes / Re: Euro Forum -notes 10th December 2017  on: Dec 11th, 2017, 4:30pm
Started by flicka{GS}~fg | Post by flicka{GS}~fg
PAX ~Scholar~ 14:18:45 pm CST
Thanks Kazar

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:18:56 pm CST
Any other comments??

flicka {GS}~ fg. 14:19:49 pm CST
~nodding~

There are no restrictions at all toward a girl in an O collar. She may serve in any way she desires. ( this has been a bone of contention for some white silks in the past, for they are restricted.)

As to GS collared slaves, while a white silk she is restricted sexually.

The rather sketchy rules of an O collar are listed on the cork boards.

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:21:05 pm CST
As a Summary there does appear to be a problem with slaves not being prepared to be GS slaves.

Solutions are the tricky part: Maybe longer 'o' collar times would help; maybe a more understandable path to moving from GS to personal would help

Bretval {meral}: 14:23:08 pm CST
I agree flicka ... has always bothered Me that the ~O~ girls are unrestricted but the white silks are

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:23:14 pm CST
OK another related Topic

PAX ~Scholar~ 14:24:12 pm CST
I just read the corks about white Vs yellow Vs red silks

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:24:43 pm CST
Topic 2:

Are there too few Masters available to use the GS slaves? Do the GS slaves simply get fed up serving nothing but drinks and food??

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:25:47 pm CST
This is the other side of the coin from the last topic - Have the Masters a responsibility here?

PAX ~Scholar~ 14:25:59 pm CST
Smiling at topic #2
There are hardly ( to none) here to serve when Im here LOL

Bretval {meral}: 14:27:40 pm CST
I have always felt that can be part of the problem... Masters really need to be more involved... not just sit back and watch

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:28:10 pm CST

Grns at PAX, a good point

Bretval {meral}: 14:31:00 pm CST
An ongoing problem Pax

flicka {GS}~ fg. 14:31:57 pm CST

At times a culture can set into any home.

At this point in time flicka feels that our home is the realm of "couples" that is a Master with His slave and even though a Master may be happy to be served food and drink by another slave, He does not wish for any overt sensuality or heaven forbid sexuality.
That of course is His choice, He is a Gorean Master.

If Masters do not wish to use the GS slaves then that is His desire. A slave, any slave is here to serve and to be pleasing in any way within her restrictions.

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:33:17 pm CST
We are all practicing Gor here, or our versions of it. .If a Master desires "monogamy" and it is how the Mater and slave decide is going to be the why come to a Gorean site where in theory. the Masters use many girls?

Bretval {meral}: 14:34:47 pm CST
Well stated, flicka

flicka {GS}~ fg. 14:36:35 pm CST
Master PAX. ~wicked smile~ flicka will ensure that the very next time You are in the Tavern she will ply You with everything You could desire.

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:37:56 pm CST
Any other comments on this topic?

PAX ~Scholar~ 14:37:59 pm CST

smiling I look forward to that day flicka

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 14:38:12 pm CST
flicka well said

flicka {GS}~ fg. 14:39:17 pm CST
~laughing softly~ Jark Randolph, flicka has many but forebears to make them.

meral{Bretval} 14:39:20 pm CST
nothing from mea, thank You Jarl

Bretval {meral}: 14:39:26 pm CST
Personally I will not use anthers personal slave in any effect''' My girl is restricted so that is unhonourable in My mind... the GS slave are another matter of course

flicka {GS}~ fg. 14:39:37 pm CST
~chuckling~ Master PAX its a date.

sura{Austin} 14:40:39 pm CST
If this one may add, since at this time there are more personally owned slaves on GS, it might be a thoughtful and courteous gesture for Masters to release their slaves temporarily to serve other Master should the opportunity arise. Again fully respecting the Mastersí Free will and wish, just as a suggestion for the tavern dynamic to be more interactive.

Austin - Scholar- 14:40:44 pm CST
Looks to mine. Does she have any thoughts. Smiles bigly to get her shyness out

Bretval {meral}: 14:40:51 pm CST
nothing more from Me Randolph

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:42:13 pm CST
frowns at flicka, I always feel the slaves tend to be somewhat shy, or reticent, here - BUT very often when they do make points and contribute they are very apt, thoughtful and very meaningful. It always makes for a more enriching discussion.

Austin - Scholar- 14:42:22 pm CST
unfortunately my slut I will not offer you to another Free

flicka {GS}~ fg. 14:42:47 pm CST
~smiling at sura~

sura are you meaning sexually?

sura{Austin} 14:43:33 pm CST
No mistress.. she means within their restrictions.

Austin - Scholar- 14:43:34 pm CST
Looks at flicka. Ahhh a resounding NO !!!

flicka {GS}~ fg. 14:44:15 pm CST
~shaking a little, wishing to wipe the frown from Jarl Randolph's brow~

Jarl, flicka was more meaning that she feels she has already dominated the discussion to the detriment of her sisters being heard.

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:44:23 pm CST
An interesting thought sura

sura{Austin} 14:44:31 pm CST
smiles at my Master shyly - she wasnít aware the discussion was about sexual use, apologizes, she meant service in general.

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:45:45 pm CST
lol - so flicka is verbose - W/we can all cope with that !!!!!

flicka {GS}~ fg. 14:45:50 pm CST
~laughs as she is blown away by Master Austin's bellow~

sura, unless your Master expressly forbids it, you would be expected to serve in any room of GS within your restrictions, unless of course you are at your Master's feet or on His lap.

meral{Bretval} 14:46:07 pm CST
is a little confused now lol

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 14:46:08 pm CST
sura and restrictions are posted in the corks

Austin - Scholar- 14:46:25 pm CST
Pets my girl head and twirls her locks. Not a problem. Just making sure all are aware of my thoughts

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:46:48 pm CST

laughs rt at the confusion. Still a good thought sura

sura{Austin} 14:47:13 pm CST
yes mistress..- nods-but often times personally owned slaves are present in the tavern accompanied by their Masters and at their feet...

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:47:22 pm CST
Any final commentshuh

PAX ~Scholar~ 14:47:53 pm CST

a good topic

sura{Austin} 14:48:37 pm CST
-smiles and lowers her eyes, still wearing the flushed crimson of embarrassment over her cheeks-

PAX ~Scholar~ 14:48:40 pm CST

Meaning topic #2 was good lol

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:48:56 pm CST

On that note I close EForum for this week

Again note that the next EForum will be on January 7th. and the next GRS on January 9th.

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:50:01 pm CST
Thanks to A/all for attending and contributing to a very interesting and thought provoking Forum

Gives the scribe a hug and a cuddle - well done, flicka

sura{Austin} 14:50:12 pm CST
Thank you Jarl Randolph for leading, and mistress for scribing.

meral{Bretval} 14:50:13 pm CST
Thank You Jarl Randolph for leading

thank you mistress for scribing

Austin - Scholar- 14:50:14 pm CST
Thank you Randolph for leading. Flicka for scribing

So there is nothing next weekhuh

flicka {GS}~ fg. 14:50:19 pm CST
sura, often in the past, a Master would have His slave serve Others if there were not other slaves available to serve the Master. A girl does think that is still the case. ~looks to the Masters present~.

PAX ~Scholar~ 14:50:24 pm CST
My thanks for leading Randolph and flicka for scribing, btw flicka rest up grinning

Bretval {meral}: 14:50:38 pm CST
My tanks to Randolph for leading
and to the lovely flicka for scribing

PAX ~Scholar~ 14:51:09 pm CST
Not in resent times flicka

flicka {GS}~ fg. 14:51:35 pm CST
ooops the loquacious one is rambling once more, after forum has closed.

Thank You Jarl Randolph for Your so able Leadership.

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:51:38 pm CST
There maybe the NA Forum, Austin - but no EForum until the 7th. January

I wish A/al a very Happy festive season and New Year.

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 14:54:50 pm CST
Randolph thanks for leading and scribing
 
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 2   Forum Notes / Euro Forum -notes 10th December 2017  on: Dec 11th, 2017, 4:26pm
Started by flicka{GS}~fg | Post by flicka{GS}~fg
Present:

Randolph
Bretval
Kazar
PAX

naia
meral
flicka


Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:35:07 pm CST
If there is a topic for Forum then please whisper it to me now.

Bretval {meral}: 13:41:03 pm CST
One announcement from Me...
have decided to suspend GRS until the nest year... for obvious reasons

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:42:09 pm CST
Noted Bretval

and a similar one from Me - the next EForum will be on Sunday 7th. January.

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 13:42:53 pm CST
Austin was good seeing yiu brand yiur sura

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:42:56 pm CST
I willl post to the corks

Bretval {meral}: 13:43:41 pm CST
Then I will restart GRS on the 9th

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:44:41 pm CST
We have a topic:

W/we all know the rules: Keep all greets and extraneous chit chat to whispers; A/all encouraged to participate; be polite; keep to the point - and be nice to flicka who is scribing

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:45:04 pm CST

ok sounds good Bretval

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:45:26 pm CST

Topic 1:

How do the free help slaves on their journey without getting into the Velcro collars

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:46:52 pm CST
Interesting, wonders if fg can comment as well as scribe

thinks slave class could be an important part of this.

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 13:46:56 pm CST
Randolph. I have seen many collar one use them short period then Take it off sometimes o e leaves gs

Bretval {meral}: 13:47:39 pm CST
The Masters need to know the girl... be sure she right for you....

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 13:48:05 pm CST
Rest A.L. agreed some only want to furr

meral{Bretval} 13:48:28 pm CST
as the girl needs to know the Master is right for her

flicka {GS}~ fg. 13:48:42 pm CST
Even though this is a topic for Free Masters and Mistresses, as a slave flicka feels that she has some input.

Every interaction has slave and a Master have educates and progresses a slave through her journey. Or at least it should.

meral{Bretval} 13:49:04 pm CST
lots of communication, listening and understanding

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:49:05 pm CST
There seems to be a desire with many girls to have personal collars. Perhaps they should be encouraged to be GS slaves until they understand GS

Bretval {meral}: 13:50:06 pm CST
After all that is one reason for the ~O~ collar... lets a girl know us and what she wants from Oour Home

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 13:50:25 pm CST
Yes Randolph. I agree. Get to yellow silks. First get to know the the Masters here

meral{Bretval} 13:51:16 pm CST
and new Masters want personal slaves right away without learning about GS

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:51:22 pm CST
I always think the 'O' Collar at 2 weeks is much too short. Perhaps extending that time may help

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 13:52:12 pm CST
Randolph should more lime 6 weeks get to know our home better

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:52:18 pm CST
For PAX

Topic 1:

How do the free help slaves on their journey without getting into the Velcro collars

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:53:48 pm CST
A longer time would help, and if they join slave class would give more tie to get to know more of the slaves

Bretval {meral}: 13:54:12 pm CST
it can be time enough, Randolph *smile to My mea* but in general I agree... should be at least 4 weeks

Austin - Scholar- 13:54:14 pm CST
Nods with Randolph and Kazar

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:54:28 pm CST
agrees it can be a 2 way street mea.

PAX ~Scholar~ 13:54:45 pm CST
I would agree as well

flicka {GS}~ fg. 13:54:52 pm CST
Jarl Randolph, yes slave class plays a role, as do every slaves of GS, especially the trainers, we all can help a new slave with the "ways of GS. But to find her slave heart and belly only the Free can do that. And for many slaves only a Master in Who's collar they are. One in which they will truely grow.

Master Kazar and Jarl Randolph flicka agrees with You about GS collars, but there seems to be a stigma around such a collar.

PAX ~Scholar~ 13:56:14 pm CST
What stigma is that girl?

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:56:23 pm CST
yes, flicka, there does seem to be a stigma - how can that stigma be changed? or minimised?

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 13:57:12 pm CST
flicka. Aye. Seems too many want a personal collar go from Master and. Master

Bretval {meral}: 13:58:22 pm CST
A sad change flicka... once it was an honour to wear a GS collar.. I am not sure why that changed over the last 2 years

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:58:35 pm CST
W/we seem to lose too many slaves.

flicka {GS}~ fg. 13:58:49 pm CST
Master PAX, there seems to be some school of thought that once a slave is in a GS it is very difficult for her to be sold to a Master, as a personal slave. This is not the case at all. However the Captains do require that a slave be trained before she will be sold.

For some slaves this can take some time.

PAX ~Scholar~ 14:00:29 pm CST
I see flicka and the Captains decide when she is trained?

flicka {GS}~ fg. 14:00:41 pm CST
Master Bretval, aye, but not just over the past two years, far longer as far as flicka is concerned.

Bretval {meral}: 14:02:22 pm CST
as far as I know any girl is welcome at slave class, Pax... GS slaves are required to attend

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:03:15 pm CST

Perhaps once a GS slave attained her yellows she was eligible to be sold it would give some encouragement to the girls to work towards it, yet stay as a GS slave until then.

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 14:03:16 pm CST
All (slaves)are welcomed too attend Slave class

Bretval {meral}: 14:03:40 pm CST
*grin* to flicka* you are probably right...My age is showing

Austin - Scholar- 14:03:58 pm CST
Good idea Randolph

flicka {GS}~ fg. 14:04:14 pm CST
Master PAX, in one sense yes, but we have formal training here in GS, many personally owned slaves also undergo it. We have trainers, they are slaves who have become proficient in not only their submission but also in the ways of GS.

The slaves start as a white silk trainee and earn their yellow silks and then go on to earn their red silks if they so desire.

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 14:04:20 pm CST

Randolph. Nice yellow silks obtained on3 is auctioned
She can be sold by the Captains

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:04:34 pm CST
lol, keep taking the serum Bretval

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:05:44 pm CST
yes, Kazar. some girls do not like the opening ceremonies, perhaps allow to be sold without having to go through that

meral{Bretval} 14:06:43 pm CST
In the nearly three years mea has been collared to her Master and in GS, mea has met many girls who took the GS collar, with the exception of one girl all the girls mea talked too wanted a Master......maybe it's a girls state of mind to crave her One

flicka {GS}~ fg. 14:07:00 pm CST

That is the case Jarl Randolph, the Captains will not sell a slave until she is yellow silk, flicka's memory is a little hazy on this, but she seems to recall that it used to be red silk. Thank goodness that is no longer the case, for not all slaves wish to or are capable to aspire to red silk.

PAX ~Scholar~ 14:07:24 pm CST
Yes I realize that there are training class here

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:10:01 pm CST
Any other comments on this topic?

flicka {GS}~ fg. 14:10:10 pm CST
With respect Jarl Randolph, the opening ceremony is not the same as selling a slave. As soon as a girl becomes yellow silk she is available for sexual use once her Opening has been won at the Ostraka.

It is not a matter of liking, a GS yellow silk is expected to serve in a sexual manner.

Bretval {meral}: 14:10:29 pm CST
Unfortunately this is all really up to the Council... all that Wwe can do is advise and express Oour concerns


Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:11:39 pm CST
yes, flicka, but is it the case that one of the dislikes of a girl is to be used by whomever wishes to do sohuh? Selling her prior to that point may help in retention

PAX ~Scholar~ 14:12:24 pm CST
Listening

flicka {GS}~ fg. 14:12:56 pm CST
~lowering her head~

As You say Jarl Randolph.

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:13:52 pm CST
looks at fg - smiling

PAX ~Scholar~ 14:14:29 pm CST
Is there a posting as to the restrictions of a slave wearing a O collar or a GS collar?

Bretval {meral}: 14:15:25 pm CST
If a girl is not ready to serve sexually then she is not ready for GS yellow silks... one more reason for the lack of GS slaves I suppose

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:15:44 pm CST
good question PAX - I'm sure there is - looks at fg

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 14:16:21 pm CST
Bretval part of the problem why Tavern isnít. Busy

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:16:23 pm CST
True Bretval, thinks girls are simply more 'picky' these days

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 14:17:24 pm CST
Pax. Yes tgeir is White silks can serve. Not sexually. Can5 lap. Master TIL she is a yellow silk




 
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 3   General Board / EForum and GRS Festive Break  on: Dec 11th, 2017, 08:38am
Started by Randolph | Post by Randolph
Both EForum and GRS will take a break over the festive season.

The next EForum will be held on Sunday, 7th. January 2018

The next GRS will be held on Tuesday, 9th. January 2018

Both will have their usual start times at 7:30 pm UK time
(1:30 pm GS time)

Both Randolph and Bretval wish A/all well for the Festive Season and New Year.

Randolph & Bretval.
 
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 4   General and RT / Re: Happy name day libi  on: Dec 11th, 2017, 12:55am
Started by ayli | Post by meral{Bretval}
Happy Name Day libi

Best wishes

Master Bretval and His mea
 
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 5   slave restrictions / Release of kianna  on: Dec 10th, 2017, 10:32pm
Started by Jondalar | Post by Jondalar
kianna is released, I wish her well on her journey.
 
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 6   General and RT / Re: Happy name day libi  on: Dec 10th, 2017, 8:24pm
Started by ayli | Post by flicka{GS}~fg
Happy name day libi.

~warm smile~
 
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 7   General and RT / Re: Happy name day libi  on: Dec 10th, 2017, 11:58am
Started by ayli | Post by Dak
Happy name day, sweet girl, *s*
 
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 8   General Board / Re: Bullshit  on: Dec 10th, 2017, 08:03am
Started by Hunter | Post by Xertog
Is passive aggression a Gorean virtue or a human trait of earth?
 
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 9   General and RT / Re: Happy name day libi  on: Dec 10th, 2017, 07:42am
Started by ayli | Post by swtpea{Frederick}
happy happy name day libi, Wwe hope you have a wonderful day and its all you wish it could be and more

Master Frederick and his swtpea
 
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 10   General and RT / Happy name day libi  on: Dec 10th, 2017, 07:31am
Started by ayli | Post by ayli
this girl just wanted to wish her chain sis libi a very happy name day hope your day is filled with joy and happiness whispers welcome to the 20s smiles remember a quote our Master said about having 2 slaves in there 20s
your sis love
ayli
 
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