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 1   General Board / EForum returns to 1:30 pm GS Time  on: Yesterday at 09:57am
Started by Randolph | Post by Randolph
Please note that with the clocks advancing by one hour in Europe this weekend, EForum will now revert to the usual 1:30pm GS time.

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 2   Forum Notes / Re: Forum 03/19/2017.  on: Mar 22nd, 2017, 9:44pm
Started by flicka{GS}~fg | Post by flicka{GS}~fg
Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 21:06:01 pm CDT
its the readers that bring their own interpretations

its difficult to understand how the thinking was back then...the world has changed so much in attitudes...and we can really only think in the now...but science fiction was a good market and they all had a bit of homespun philosophy thrown in that was a response to the times they lived in..just as music did with people like Dylan for example....

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:06:18 pm CDT

hmmm I had no idea he wrote any books other than the Gor books

Dak 21:07:06 pm CDT
well, in My mind I would not consider either of those Pc, but I don't make the rules, *laughing* protesters are just that, Protesters !

LionHeart of Old 21:07:34 pm CDT

He wrote in the genre and tradition of Edgar Rice Burroughs --- and Burroughs was in My mind without question trying to create in the Tarzan series as post-darwin philosophy of the nature of humanity

Rollo the Ax 21:09:42 pm CDT
In all honesty, both Hunter and LoinHeart ..... * I * feel that both concepts have merit ..... fiction is and was often used to offer * differing * points of view and offer possible answers or ideas .... by being in fiction form, those offering the ideas could do so without receiving negative comments from the academics of the time .....

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 21:11:04 pm CDT
point taken....Lionheart...I should have said academic statement....remember he is an academic first

lets change it to if he really had grand a new society as his main goal he would have written papers...or started a church..not paperbacks ....yes fiction has influence of course...but his ideals arent new anyway

LionHeart of Old 21:11:20 pm CDT

"Imaginative Sex" is an interesting book, but not seen a copy in years

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:12:35 pm CDT

nodding Robert Heinlein's good startship troopers-- the enemy was an ant like communism of alien bugs that couldn't be reasoned with only killed.. and his concept that only people who served in the military had earned the right to be citizens and the right to vote

LionHeart of Old 21:12:53 pm CDT
Ah Hunter, but as serious an author at the founder of existentialism (Kierkegarrd) wrote fictional works to draw IN an audience

flicka {GS}~ fg. 21:13:18 pm CDT

~listening to Jarl Hunter~ Hmm L Ron Hubbard started a church, and he was initially a science fiction writer. Scientology is certainly still around.

Rollo the Ax 21:14:52 pm CDT

Yes, the style is much like ERB ... he not only wrote the Tarzan series as such, but also the Conan, John Carter of Mars ( Barsoom ) , and the Venus series where the hero was always the super strong swords wielding no nonsense sex guy ......

ruby~{Randolph}~t 21:16:15 pm CDT

Imaginative Sex..can be purchased on e-reads...for $4.49..a bargin....a worthwhile read

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:18:09 pm CDT
folks any more comments?

flicka {GS}~ fg. 21:18:37 pm CDT
No Master Sandman.

karinda {GS} 21:18:51 pm CDT
Nods she has nothing to add at this time

karinda {GS} 21:19:14 pm CDT
Giggles and shakes her head no...shesh

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 21:19:17 pm CDT
will you read it to Me ruby...grins

ruby~{Randolph}~t 21:19:29 pm CDT
Master Sandman
nothing from this lowly beast

Rollo the Ax 21:20:12 pm CDT
Aye, brother Sandman .... Heinlein did offer a VERY valid concept in the book .. service is required for citizenship ..... but I feel that he carried on from the old Roman system .... all male citizens were required to provide military service if needed in the Republic .....

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 21:20:51 pm CDT

we could talk till the bosk come home...but no

ruby~{Randolph}~t 21:21:20 pm CDT

winks and chuckles to Jarl Hunter
know You a very long time, perhaps 15 years....and never before have You requested a bedtime story..blush

peanut {Lita~HLH} 21:24:26 pm CDT
smiles brightly at the comment....then giggled

LionHeart of Old 21:25:54 pm CDT

Damn unfed urts

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 21:25:57 pm CDT

Thanks to those leading and the scribe

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:26:38 pm CDT

darn House Daemon

flicka {GS}~ fg. 21:27:49 pm CDT
Thank You Master Sandman for taking over from Master Zoran. ~warm hug~

ruby~{Randolph}~t 21:28:54 pm CDT

thank You Master Sandman and Master Zoran fir twin leading

mistress flicka for scribing

karinda {GS} 21:30:05 pm CDT
Thank you Master Sandman and Naster Zoran for leading

Smiles at mistress...thank You for scribing

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 21:30:25 pm CDT

chuckles back to ruby....thats true I havent

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 3   Forum Notes / Re: Forum 03/19/2017.  on: Mar 22nd, 2017, 9:41pm
Started by flicka{GS}~fg | Post by flicka{GS}~fg
Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:16:56 pm CDT
I wasnt speaking of anons...just in general

having said that just because something is anon doesnt give it no weight...sometimes its right ...though often not

I dont like that way of voicing ideas Myself ...but its what folks do at times

Zoran ~Captain~ Merchant 20:17:23 pm CDT
We will always have disagreement
It is life

LionHeart of Old 20:17:41 pm CDT

The worst thing about anon is the guessing it causes One to do

Being suspicious of Others that in fact are innocent --- THAT makes them as flicka says LOWER than POND SCUM ~chuckles at the girls coined phrase~

flicka {GS}~ fg. 20:17:48 pm CDT
~reading back~ ooops Master Sandman You are not pond scum. ~chuckling~

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:19:03 pm CDT

I certainly wouldnt fight or argue with an anon Sissy....but I might have My mind changed by what is said..its possible

Austin - Scholar- 20:20:42 pm CDT
Chuckles.. Is pond scum lower than Whale poo??

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:20:43 pm CDT
yes LH exactly sows the seeds of suspicion and mistrust...thats the problem more than what is said in many cases

LionHeart of Old 20:21:23 pm CDT

I do get what you mean Hunter -- sometimes anons can be like a canary in a coal mine, but that the same time they speak in such a way that has no honor which does call their points into question. It is easy to complain about A/another when you as an anon have NO HISTORY to deal with. Those of us Who have to LIVE with our history good and bad have honor in that -- where anons snipe with their own vantage points unknown

Sissy 20:21:59 pm CDT
Its possible Hunter but do you believe everything you hear or read? In life you have to take everything with a grain of salt til you find the truth yourself

flicka {GS}~ fg. 20:23:49 pm CDT
~trying to keep a straight face~ You know Master Austin, flicka has never thought of whales pooing. Oh my, their excrement must be voluminous, kind of takes away some of the serenity of their songs doesn't it. Not quite as ethereal when you think of them pooing while they sing.
LionHeart of Old 20:26:31 pm CDT
~not able to resist~

But perhaps, flicka with their size they "just don't give a shit" lol

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:27:24 pm CDT

Yes its hard to seperate word from behaviour...and that is what honor is ...behaving a certain way ....within a framework of ethics and morality

but I hesitate to make absolutes....there would be examples in history of anonymity not being a signifier of we must take every case in iolation

flicka {GS}~ fg. 20:28:22 pm CDT
So Master LionHeart You think that they may be akin to fairies? In that they do not pollute the earth or in their case the water with base bodily functions like farting or pooing?

And yes a girl did understand your meaning, but like You just could not resist.

Sissy 20:28:46 pm CDT

Rubbing my temples wondering how to get the thought of whale shit outta my head

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:30:05 pm CDT

I've hear them whales sing....the words are bullwhaleshite flicka....LOL..

Sissy 20:30:30 pm CDT

You take the time Hunter..I personally don't have time for anons who bitch and whine

flicka {GS}~ fg. 20:32:03 pm CDT
Jarl Hunter, a girl does think that both You and Master LionHeart do have a point that anons can be a little like a canary in a coal mine, or a barometre of pressure, but still a girl would be loathe to place anything more than a minute modicum of credence upon their words. Online it is so easy to hide.

Zoran ~Captain~ Merchant 20:32:40 pm CDT
I sorry all
But I must leave be well all
No Sandman will take over

ruby~{Randolph}~t 20:33:14 pm CDT

mistress flicka
do you speak of the Hunjer whale shark?...their teeth are well known for good luck...makes a notation to scour the Thassa beaches

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:33:37 pm CDT
waving to my Brother rest well

flicka {GS}~ fg. 20:34:22 pm CDT

Mistress Sissy perhaps if You think of talender flowers it will take Your mind off whale poo.

Sissy 20:35:24 pm CDT
perhaps flicka

LionHeart of Old 20:37:01 pm CDT


A FW thinking of talenders is like a virgin thinking of orgies LOL

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:37:17 pm CDT
My canaries got circles under his eyes flicka....grins

yes I agree with not think I am giving respect to the practice

Sissy 20:38:47 pm CDT
a virgin in an orgy is a hell of a thought

flicka {GS}~ fg. 20:38:58 pm CDT

ruby, hmm the Hunjer whale shark would have formidable poo. A girl was thinking of the blue whale of earth however.

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:40:48 pm CDT

a virgin could have a whale of a time at an orgy

LionHeart of Old 20:41:05 pm CDT

Is there perhaps a better topic than anons and whale shit S/someone could whisper Sandman?

flicka {GS}~ fg. 20:42:23 pm CDT
~firmly tongue in cheek~

ruby would you be hunting the shores of the Thassa for washed up teeth or for fertilizer for the Piazza garden?

Sissy 20:42:33 pm CDT
Aye is there another topic I'm eating up my data on whale shit

Rollo the Ax 20:43:39 pm CDT

A hell of a thought, yes Sissy ... but what a way to * convert * the virgin .......

peanut {Lita~HLH} 20:43:50 pm CDT
looks to mistress, be a helava chore wouldn't it?

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:44:04 pm CDT
waiting for any new-- non-whaleshit topics

ruby~{Randolph}~t 20:44:58 pm CDT

girl is going to scour the shores for Hunjer whale skark teeth, if my Jarl gifts her the outing...good luck is nothing to shun

LionHeart of Old 20:45:20 pm CDT
Might be a better conversion for a Male virgin than a female lol

Sissy 20:45:20 pm CDT
Aye Rollo...smiling beneath my veil

karinda {GS} 20:46:42 pm CDT
Awaits the next topic...

Rollo the Ax 20:48:26 pm CDT
LOL ... I guess that it depends on your own definition of * better * LH ...... LOL .....

Rollo the Ax 20:50:04 pm CDT
Is there another topic ?? or perhaps the question is better put, is there a Captain or Council member here to * take over * ??

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:50:06 pm CDT
ok I have another topic:

Were the Gor books written as more a reaction against feminism or political correctness in general

Dak 20:52:35 pm CDT
had to be feminism, there was no political correctness back then, *s*

LionHeart of Old 20:53:38 pm CDT
Hell PC had been around since the first election lol

ruby~{Randolph}~t 20:54:42 pm CDT
Master Sandman

thinks both...feminism and political correctness in general, go had in hand

karinda {GS} 20:55:30 pm CDT
Merely listens

LionHeart of Old 20:56:41 pm CDT
I would tend to say feminism to be honest (and I mean in its more radical forms) --- but also against anything in society which makes people deny who they "are" biologically or personally

Rollo the Ax 20:58:33 pm CDT

I can not say for sure but from my way of thinking, I question either .. JN, or the rt man that he is wrote other books about sex and alternate ways as well as his Gor books.... I would say perhaps just another SciFi/sword and sorcery style .....

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:59:29 pm CDT
He wrote them for several reasons....the initial one was because he is a writer and a fan of science fiction...not because he was a philosopher and had grand fact he would have been well aware that fiction is hardly the way to make a statement..its entertainment when all said and done..the second is because the first books were popular he kept going because it made him money and because he enjoyed it.
Also at the time some of the sentiments that are part of the narrative were being popularised by Robert Heinlein as well...on a much larger readership in fact

flicka {GS}~ fg. 21:00:43 pm CDT

flicka is not sure.

He may have been writing for a more deep agenda, in that he was flying in the face of growing feminism but also his books had a large target audience of young men, in a sense the pornography of their day. What is interesting that so many women also embraced what he was writing.

To flicka's mind that is more to the point, that we as women seek strong men and seek to be dominated by them.

Rollo the Ax 21:01:54 pm CDT
Dak huh * no pc back then * ?? maybe they didn't call it pc, but what the hell would you call all the anti war protesters ?? I read my first Gor book in country ... and the protesters where a lot more in OUR minds than some bra burners ........

ruby~{Randolph}~t 21:02:08 pm CDT
Jarl Rollo
do You speak of "Imaginative Sex".. by John Norman?.. chuckles

LionHeart of Old 21:04:01 pm CDT
Nothing to the point of the topic Hunter, but this I disagree with strongly

"would have been well aware that fiction is hardly the way to make a statement"

Fiction had historically been used for making most points -- especially philospically IF wish to reach a larger audience than academics

Rollo the Ax 21:04:40 pm CDT
Yes, ruby.... but he had several others as well..... he wrote on other topic as well ....

flicka {GS}~ fg. 21:05:13 pm CDT
flicka agrees with you Jarl Hunter, he was foremost a science fiction writer, a girl is trying to recall a book from way back then about alternate sexuality, someone's Freehold. And you also Master Rollo, a gril agrees, the original books were sword and sorcery with a liberal dose of sex. ~laughing~

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 4   Forum Notes / Forum 03/19/2017.  on: Mar 22nd, 2017, 9:37pm
Started by flicka{GS}~fg | Post by flicka{GS}~fg

Rollo the Ax



Zoran ~Captain~ Merchant 19:37:49 pm CDT

Ok all let us start
When you have a question
Whisper it to me
But first I have question I want to ask
And I want all to be honest with there words

flicka {GS}~ fg. 19:39:14 pm CDT
~adjusting her silks and ink and parchment, attending to Master Zoran.~

ruby~{Randolph}~t 19:39:18 pm CDT

dark eyes full of sin lift to Master Zoran - listening

karinda {GS} 19:39:22 pm CDT
Watches as all the slaves move to their Masters...Shivers as she kneels way on the other side...alone

Zoran ~Captain~ Merchant 19:40:22 pm CDT
I been told that there is unrest with the council and how we make decions.
It was also said we allow untruth in are home to flourish.
I want to know how all fill.

ruby~{Randolph}~t 19:41:30 pm CDT
your not alone karinda...girl kneels on the slave furs too

ayrie{Thadron} 19:41:35 pm CDT
~hugs karinda before turning her attention to Master Zoran, not picturing Any.... blades....

karinda {GS} 19:42:57 pm CDT
Hugs ruby...oh good...though kar was alone

Zoran ~Captain~ Merchant 19:45:12 pm CDT

Looks around
I promise you no harm will come to anyone who speaks there mine
You have my word and my sword

flicka {GS}~ fg. 19:46:36 pm CDT
Master Zoran, how the Council make Their decisions is not within the province of this girls approval or disapproval. The Captains make Their decisions as strong and worthy Men of our home and as They see fit.

As to allowing lies to percolate whenever there are groups of people there will be lies, misunderstandings, deceptions.

All each of us can do is always remain true to ourselves, flicka abhors cheating and lying, loathes disloyalty and betrayal of trust. And the day that flicka stoops so low is the day that she will no longer remain a part of this home, for her shame would be too great to remain.

Zoran ~Captain~ Merchant 19:49:07 pm CDT
Thank you flika
We allow masters to be Masters with in the laws of are home

karinda {GS} 19:49:25 pm CDT

Looks down to the floor....remembering her banning...closes her eyes to choke back the anguish she did to her own self. Remains hushed

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 19:49:26 pm CDT

we have occasionally had folks under anon names spouting poison.. I usually put them on ignore and tell others to do so

Zoran ~Captain~ Merchant 19:50:25 pm CDT
I Will not Micromanage GS
If you have issue take to the person
In private
We are all adults here

Austin - Scholar- 19:52:05 pm CDT

I personally believe that the council makes decision for what is best for Oour home. It is not an easy job and often you can't please everyone. We all have to look at the big picture not our micro picture. I would think if Oone has concerns, He or she should address their concerns privately to a Captain and not spread innuendo publicly.

Zoran ~Captain~ Merchant 19:52:09 pm CDT
But karinda you did you punishment and did not break it
You serve you time and should be forgiven
We have very short lives and to hold a grudge is very wrong

flicka {GS}~ fg. 19:52:11 pm CDT

~softly~ karinda we all make mistakes, you accepted the punishment of the Captains, and as such it is now behind you. For flicka you have a fresh page upon which to write, how you write upon it is your choice and for flicka the past is over.

~sending you a gentle hug~

Zoran ~Captain~ Merchant 19:52:49 pm CDT

I agree Austin
Mom said you were the smart one laughs

ruby~{Randolph}~t 19:53:05 pm CDT
this one tries not to judge...if one judges, then they are opened to be judged themselves

the Captains are busy Men...taking the time to get protocals right the first time

ayrie{Thadron} 19:53:12 pm CDT
one can only think that the one who suggested the topic might need to talk with The Council as this one does not feel that way in the least . much less it being her place to cast judgement.

flicka {GS}~ fg. 19:54:01 pm CDT
Master Sandman, the words of anonymous persons are to be treated with as little regard as pond scum, to be ignored if possible and at worse scraped off with disdain.

ruby~{Randolph}~t 19:54:11 pm CDT

true Master Zoran
life is short...every day is a gift to be cherished

Dak 19:54:50 pm CDT

don't feel bad karinda, I've been banned twice from GS, and both times were over lies, *s*

Austin - Scholar- 19:55:16 pm CDT
Chuckles.. Zoran only once in a while..

flicka {GS}~ fg. 19:55:31 pm CDT

~smiling as Jarl Hunter strides in. hiding her extra smile at the thought of ahem bottoms.~

Austin - Scholar- 19:56:29 pm CDT

NOds in agreement with flicka

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 19:57:09 pm CDT

bottoms up...grins at flicka....its what we sometimes say when consuming ale

flicka {GS}~ fg. 19:57:32 pm CDT

~smiles at ruby~ indeed life is too short to dwell upon unhappiness.

Zoran ~Captain~ Merchant 19:57:59 pm CDT

Does anyone have anything to
Add or we shall move on

Austin - Scholar- 19:58:27 pm CDT
Chuckles.. and nods at life is short.. my time line is very short.. looking around at all the young and beautiful

ayrie{Thadron} 19:58:58 pm CDT

~gentle fingers reaching out in interlace with ruby's
life is too short, indeed

flicka {GS}~ fg. 19:59:30 pm CDT
~whispers~ Master Austin, it is only the illusion of the Serum that makes flicka appear young and beautiful.

ayrie{Thadron} 19:59:43 pm CDT
Nothing from this one, Thank You Master Zoran

ruby~{Randolph}~t 19:59:46 pm CDT
indeed mistress

dont sweat the small stuff

Zoran ~Captain~ Merchant 19:59:59 pm CDT
Does anyone have another question please
Whisper it to me

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:01:04 pm CDT
I missed the first to read back

ayrie{Thadron} 20:02:40 pm CDT
Zoran ~Captain~ Merchant 19:40:22 pm CDT
I been told that there is unrest with the council and how we make decions.
It was also said we allow untruth in are home to flourish.
I want to know how all fill.

Austin - Scholar- 20:03:13 pm CDT
Chuckles talking about time lines.. flicka why do you think I am spending so many hours in my lab.. its called youth serum.. pretty good at the aromatic solutions.. but not so successful on the youth movement as of yet

ayrie{Thadron} 20:04:37 pm CDT
she was hoping to capture the question before it disappeared from her lil screen

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:04:43 pm CDT
No idea what the statement refers to with regard to any topicf I dont see what life being short or long has to do with anything ...or is that just a conveneient way to never stand for anything?

Well I dont see Tarl Cabot ever putting his feet up because he might not live to see change.

Zoran ~Captain~ Merchant 20:05:50 pm CDT
Please explain Hunter

flicka {GS}~ fg. 20:06:56 pm CDT
Jarl Hunter, as always the discussion segued to life being short from the original input to the question.

LionHeart of Old 20:07:48 pm CDT
~reads back as enters and sits~

I have felt from some attacks made on Me that there are those who feel they SHOULD be on the Council, but are not and while speaking as if loyal to this place are not so -- but again how does one fight anons and two-faced ones

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:09:03 pm CDT

LH-- anon's get ignored,, if they are too ashamed to show their true faces they have no voice here

Zoran ~Captain~ Merchant 20:09:37 pm CDT
LH we have not seen eye to eye before but we always say it to each other's faces

Sissy 20:10:28 pm CDT
Trying to fight those is a waste of time and breath LH and those who start gossip and spread rumors about GS are just jealous of the members

LionHeart of Old 20:10:54 pm CDT
Indeed as it should be -- but they do so often sew seeds of doubt and distrust in many folk -- 1/2 truths are dangerous --

My own home (jag) had this issue about 3 years back -- better now but it will crop up there again I am sure

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:11:41 pm CDT
nothing to explain Zoran...but if it helps I was suggesting that while its true life is short.....all things happen or don't happen regardless and we can either be blaise or proactive out on how it affects us as individuals

but I think many times the life is too short for this or that is not a helpful attitude

LionHeart of Old 20:12:14 pm CDT

I know Zoran -- I have no issues with You or such as You -- I have My suspicions who the anons are, but with no proof I keep My piece --

flicka {GS}~ fg. 20:12:33 pm CDT
A girl thinks that you can be loyal and yet still have disparate views. It is how they are presented that is important, in forum discussion and even active debate is encouraged.

Even by slaves. And even Free Men and Women are expected to show respect in the putting forward of Their views.

~smiling at Master Sandman.~ pond scum.

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:12:37 pm CDT
I have been involved with chat rooms for over 15 years,, everyone has had its share of bosk dung stirrers

Sissy 20:13:44 pm CDT
And what should we do Hunter? Fight and argue with the anon and bring ourselves down to their level..I think not

Zoran ~Captain~ Merchant 20:13:59 pm CDT
Hunter well then think of it this way. I will give all the same hand as it is not for me to judge who should be less

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:14:02 pm CDT

not meant to be an out after proactive scribe...smiles

LionHeart of Old 20:15:32 pm CDT
No question about that Sandman

Cowards abound -- and often hide behind cloaks of "honor", sadly -- whereas nothing they accuse others of is close to the dishonor they do being an anon

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 5   Book discussion and book quotes / Re: Gorean Reading Society: 21-March-2017  on: Mar 22nd, 2017, 12:57pm
Started by ruby~{Randolph}~t | Post by ruby~{Randolph}~t
Bretval {meral}: 16:00:53 pm CDT
I agree ... nice to not on a cliff-hanger for a shange *grin*

Bretval {meral}: 16:02:32 pm CDT
and if It wanted Tthem dead... they would be

ruby~{Randolph}~t 16:02:33 pm CDT

ahhh..yes a superb cliff-hanger...sitting on the edge of her Jarls fur..a true nail biter

meral{Bretval} 16:03:27 pm CDT
very true my Master

Bretval {meral}: 16:06:55 pm CDT
And that brings Uus to the end of the session...
and I thank Aall for taking part and the lovely ruby for scribing

ruby~{Randolph}~t 16:07:53 pm CDT
thank You Master Bretval for leading..simply adores this book

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 16:08:38 pm CDT
Many thanks for leading Bretval, very enjoyable and good summaries. Just wish more would attend and enjoy this.

kisses the scribe

meral{Bretval} 16:08:55 pm CDT
Thank You my Master for leading another very interesting GRS......kiss

thank you sweet ruby for scribing

Thank You Jarl

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 16:10:00 pm CDT
gives a smile to mea, it's good to have nothing to do except simply enjoy !!!!!

ruby~{Randolph}~t 16:10:04 pm CDT
rolls up the parchment swiftly
as always a gift to serve my Jarls Home

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 6   Book discussion and book quotes / Re: Gorean Reading Society: 21-March-2017  on: Mar 22nd, 2017, 12:52pm
Started by ruby~{Randolph}~t | Post by ruby~{Randolph}~t
ruby~{Randolph}~t 15:16:18 pm CDT
a good tracking sleen is worth so much more than a mere slave

meral{Bretval} 15:16:23 pm CDT
none from mea thank You my Master

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:17:21 pm CDT

none here Bretval

Bretval {meral}: 15:17:40 pm CDT
a trained sleen, ruby... in the wild dangerous to Eeverybody

ruby~{Randolph}~t 15:18:20 pm CDT
Master Bretval
ready to go into the hut of the Mountebank..

Bretval {meral}: 15:20:24 pm CDT
Chapter Ten

Remember our clown and his trained beast from Chapter Eight? Here they are again, and it’s the sight of the beast that has made her scream. Obligingly, the man still has his clown face on, which doesn’t really make narrative sense but does save some explaining. Once he has washed his face, he addresses Elinor in English, and she recognises him as one of the two men who abducted her from Earth.

He begins a sort of one-man Mister Nice/Mister Nasty routine on Elinor, with the aid of the beast to reinforce his Mister Nasty persona, and they enjoy a quiet smoke together, which isn’t something she’s been used to over the last few weeks, while he fills her in on some plot background. It was not by accident that she was left behind when their flying saucer was shot down - the rest of the girls were taken away to safety, but Elinor was kept to one side, to be collected later, though we don’t know why as yet.

Bretval {meral}: 15:23:29 pm CDT
Hmmm a beast to take on a sleen perchance?

meral{Bretval} 15:24:48 pm CDT
and why the sleen wasn't interested in the Panther girls my Master, it had the scent of the Beast to follow

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:25:04 pm CDT
There seems to be almost a chess game being played here with Elinor as a pawn, but her not even realising there is a game at all.

ruby~{Randolph}~t 15:25:37 pm CDT
Elinor Briton now a cowering trembling, petrified naked bound slave girl in the presence of the Beast, but who can blame her?

very touching when the pretender clown, gave her a silk robe Elinor possessed on Earth..finding out she was only 17 when she was being watched for acquisition

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:26:42 pm CDT
There is book where a beast is forced to fight sleen, and manages to bite them in two

Bretval {meral}: 15:27:09 pm CDT
So why was Elinor left in he wilderness of Gor? Was she a special buy ? The slaver sure wet to a trouble to capture her!

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:28:30 pm CDT

perhaps a form of conditioning

ruby~{Randolph}~t 15:29:21 pm CDT
certain there were other reasons Elinor was brought to Gor..than to be a mere slave..bites lips to not get ahead

Bretval {meral}: 15:29:31 pm CDT
Your turn to stop looking forward Randolph *grin*

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:29:58 pm CDT

lol, Bretval, Ooops

meral{Bretval} 15:31:01 pm CDT

she is going to be trained to do something mea thinks

Bretval {meral}: 15:31:08 pm CDT
and I would agree Randolph a form of mental conditioning seem likely

Bretval {meral}: 15:32:50 pm CDT
never let the subject get its bearings hence the Mr.Nice/Mr.Nasty game

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:33:17 pm CDT
Maybe I missed something on Elinor - knows she was a 'rich bitch'. but was she bright and well educated??

Bretval {meral}: 15:34:48 pm CDT
yes she was well educated, Randolph

ruby~{Randolph}~t 15:35:20 pm CDT

oh yes my Jarl...Elinor was very well educated on Urth and smart as a whip...the Agents that were watching her made certain of that

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:36:06 pm CDT
How do we know that Bretval - sent to all the right schools - but all rich people are - can still be incredibly stupid (many examples of that)

Bretval {meral}: 15:37:06 pm CDT

and now Randolph look into the future *grin*...

Their deliberations are interrupted by the sound of a sleen outside, which they guess is the one that the Panthers scented, but the man claims that they will be safe in the hut, and continues with his explanation of what he wants Elinor for. The mere realization that there is something that he wants of her leads Elinor to suppose that she can bargain, manipulate and control, and he allows her to believe that this is so for a few moments before slapping her across the face and threatening to have the beast eat her. She pleads for mercy and begs to be commanded, and he just has time to inform her that she is to be placed in a wealthy house and there poison its master when the sleen makes a determined attempt to break in. The window-shutter is smashed to pieces and the sleen begins to wriggle sinuously through, when the beast leaps upon it and, after a brief, savage fight, kills it.

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:37:45 pm CDT

well, yes, maybe the Agents prerequisite was for a smart/Intelligent girl

Bretval {meral}: 15:39:11 pm CDT
smart enough to have a successful business, Randolph

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:39:55 pm CDT
Likes that bit, I actually prefer the 'beasts' to the PKs

ruby~{Randolph}~t 15:40:16 pm CDT
but what is this Beast?.. a captured Kurii?

meral{Bretval} 15:41:01 pm CDT

It must have been a terrifying fight to watch

ruby~{Randolph}~t 15:41:36 pm CDT

You do my Jarl?.. even over PK Misk, that has "nest trust" with Oour Hero?...wonders why

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:41:55 pm CDT
(ok, Bretval - my cynicism maybe too strong here)

Bretval {meral}: 15:42:30 pm CDT

hmmm so she is to be an assassin.... unusual to risk a slave girl for such a job

meral{Bretval} 15:42:35 pm CDT
it must be the Beast in the last book maybe they can be trained

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:43:57 pm CDT
I am assuming that ruby. I always like to support the underdog - an English trait - wonders how mea feels about them !!

meral{Bretval} 15:46:12 pm CDT
mea isn't keen on either Jarl.......a huge wriggly ant or a giant hairy snarling Beast

ruby~{Randolph}~t 15:46:21 pm CDT
lol mea
well the Beast did not appear to be trained...when the Mountebank ordered it not to feast on the tracking sleen

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:46:28 pm CDT
the beast may well be biding his time - if a Kurii is not lacking in intelligence

Bretval {meral}: 15:46:38 pm CDT

of course it is a Kurri, ruby.... 8 ft tall, fangs , black fur... capable of kill a sleen ,,, but at this point it is just one of the Others

ruby~{Randolph}~t 15:47:46 pm CDT
yes Master Bretval

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:48:48 pm CDT

I think of them in the same way as bear - in theory nice and cuddly, as in 'teddy' but not wise to get close to rt.

Bretval {meral}: 15:50:09 pm CDT

your assumption, ruby is that Men are in control... but no Gorean could have built the ship... only a P-K or one of the Others couod have done that... so who is really in control in that hut?

meral{Bretval} 15:50:34 pm CDT
mea thinks of the huge black Chewbaccas with tempers

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:51:20 pm CDT
A good question Bretval. Insightful in fact.

ruby~{Randolph}~t 15:51:33 pm CDT
Master Bretval
well we will see that when the Man and Elinor...flee for Ttheir lives

ruby~{Randolph}~t 15:52:19 pm CDT
lol mea...great analogy

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:52:32 pm CDT

(will have ruby give mea a small stuffed kurii for Xmas)

meral{Bretval} 15:53:59 pm CDT
the Beast was always in control my Master

Bretval {meral}: 15:54:14 pm CDT

and a taste for human flesh, mea.... this one is satisfying itself with the sleen... simply because It needs the humans to do their part as I see it

ruby~{Randolph}~t 15:54:15 pm CDT
ohhhh really my Jarl?.. loves gifts..tilts her head...what is Christmas?...braces for the incoming cuff

meral{Bretval} 15:55:32 pm CDT
yes my Master and when humans are not needed they get eaten

meral{Bretval} 15:56:04 pm CDT
oh Jarl, mea will have nightmares.....shivers

Bretval {meral}: 15:56:07 pm CDT
finishing the chapter...

To the man’s apparent horror, the beast begins to feed on the dead sleen, and ignores the man’s command to leave it alone. Elinor shrieks at it to obey its master, which slightly artificial phrasing doesn’t altogether stand up to rigorous examination. But using that form of words gives the beast a great feed line. Interrupting what was looking like a feeding frenzy, it retorts “I am the master”, at which the man and Elinor alike flee in panic.

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:56:36 pm CDT
ruby, the gift is for mea, not My mouthy slut.

Bretval {meral}: 15:57:42 pm CDT
looks like looked ahead *grin*

ruby~{Randolph}~t 15:57:55 pm CDT
oh her eyes stinging with tears..kiss

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:58:49 pm CDT
A good ending to the Chapter - kurii rules !!! and builds up the intrigue for the next chapter.

meral{Bretval} 15:59:41 pm CDT
mea hopes Tthey can run very fast

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 16:00:13 pm CDT
with a kurrii behind them I am sure they will, mea, lol

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 7   Book discussion and book quotes / Gorean Reading Society: 21-March-2017  on: Mar 22nd, 2017, 12:17pm
Started by ruby~{Randolph}~t | Post by ruby~{Randolph}~t
"Captive of Gor" - book 7
Chapter 9 - The Hut
Chapter 10 - What Transpired In The Hut


Jarl Randolph
Master Bretval - Moderator

ruby{Randolph}~t - scribe

Bretval {meral}: 14:37:48 pm CDT
Wwe might as well jump into it with a quick recap

Elinor Brinton, having been taken to Gor and fallen into the clutches of Targo, a slaver, was just beginning to get used to the idea that she was never going home and was going to become a man’s slave some time soon - and didn’t seem as unhappy about it as at the outset - when she was abducted once again, this time by a band of Panther Women, none other than the famous Verna and her band. What on Gor they can possibly want with her, we have yet to learn and so does Elinor

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:38:09 pm CDT
poises nib to fine milled rence parchment...listens intently

meral{Bretval} 14:38:36 pm CDT
~turns her attention to my Master~

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:39:52 pm CDT
Finds this interesting - a little different from the run of the mill of the books

meral{Bretval} 14:40:33 pm CDT
elinor must have been so very scared once more with all those mad women lol

Bretval {meral}: 14:41:16 pm CDT

Chapter Nine

The Panthers’ sisterly solidarity is apparent right from the word go - they plainly despise Elinor for allowing herself to be the slave of a man, and when she asks to join their band, Verna’s response is to insist that Elinor may do so only by winning a knife-fight to the death. She is, unsurprisingly, afraid to do so, and we may well conclude that she has reason. At any rate, once she fails to take up the offer, she is sneered at even more and is obliged to confess herself a slave and the inferior of the Panthers. Verna now sees fit to inform Elinor that they have been hired by a man to capture her.

In defiance of those of on-line Gor who would have it that Panthers must be radical feminist lesbian separatists, it is soon plain that these are very strongly heterosexual and uncomfortably aroused by the mere sight of men. They interrupt their journey to stop at a forest clearing, where Elinor is temporarily made fast to a hitching post and looks on as the Panthers, Verna last of all but by no means least, begin a wild, erotic dance by moonlight. This seems like an odd way for them to sublimate their sexual urges, but a graphic description of sixteen beautiful naked women masturbating like wild monkeys would, I suppose, have been a little out of character for Norman.

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:41:18 pm CDT

yes my Jarl
Captive of Gor is one of a few that were written from a slaves perspective...loving it of course

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:41:25 pm CDT
yes, mea, she must think Gor is a totally mad place

meral{Bretval} 14:42:46 pm CDT
like the first day of a sale at Next.....giggles

Bretval {meral}: 14:43:16 pm CDT
well He was trying to see it all through the eyes of a female slave not Those of a Warrior

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:43:23 pm CDT
Sounds like a very satanic description

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:44:30 pm CDT
Bol, mea, I have never been to one but maybe I should go for the experience !!!!!

meral{Bretval} 14:45:20 pm CDT
all elinor had seen was women as women acting like Men......a total scary twist on what she thought Gor was

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:46:01 pm CDT
The Panther girls are so proficient in the Forests...hiding gourds of water and meat in the trees...very impressive

Bretval {meral}: 14:47:23 pm CDT
I expect she will be totally terrified when she meets her firt Free Woman *grin*

meral{Bretval} 14:47:27 pm CDT
yes Jarl it's quite the experience

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:47:41 pm CDT
Yes ruby, seem well organised, but live more like savages than having a proper structure to how they live compared to the rest of Gor

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:47:56 pm CDT
admits the savage dance of the Panther Girls was very very erotic..clawing at the three moons..

Bretval {meral}: 14:48:41 pm CDT
I agree, ruby... very impressive

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:49:25 pm CDT
Maybe that is what happens when the slave in every women is never realized

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:50:05 pm CDT

true my Master..but girl had the feeling that they hated Men...and captured Them as slaves, then sold Them when they became weary and bored

meral{Bretval} 14:50:41 pm CDT
they become a FW or a panther girl Jarl......interesting

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:51:22 pm CDT
perhaps, ruby, but that may be because they (the women) were not slaves.

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:53:00 pm CDT
yes, mea, interesting. looks for the equivalent in an urthern environment.

Bretval {meral}: 14:53:33 pm CDT
moving on....

At any rate, Elinor is somewhat comforted to see that the proud Panthers are as helpless in the face of their own desires as she is, and maybe even more so, and she even dares to tell them that they moved as if they had been slave girls. This earns her a slap, but Verna only says “We are women”, and refuses to punish her further.

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:54:08 pm CDT
well we learn in this Chapter ...that Kalana wine makes any Woman a slave if only for an hour...chuckles wildly

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:56:52 pm CDT
maybe she should have said "Women are Women"

Bretval {meral}: 14:57:37 pm CDT
it is al;so interesting that Norman ignores what drives Men... lets face it Men are as driven by a drive to screw but hide it behind Honour ... and killing

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:57:38 pm CDT
what is kalana made of, ruby

meral{Bretval} 14:58:26 pm CDT
can't think of any Urthern equivalent to the Panther girls

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:58:32 pm CDT
Yes, some do, Bretval

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:59:07 pm CDT
possibly the Amazon women, mea

Bretval {meral}: 14:59:59 pm CDT
unless They haven a female at hand

meral{Bretval} 15:00:01 pm CDT

yes Jarl that is a good comparison

ruby~{Randolph}~t 15:00:02 pm CDT

my Jarl
Kalana is very potent dry white or red wine, made from the fruit of the Ka-la-na tree

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:01:24 pm CDT

interesting, ruby. Wonders if claret has the same effect.

Bretval {meral}: 15:02:08 pm CDT
Valkyries come to mind and yes the Amazon women in Greek stories as Randolph said

ruby~{Randolph}~t 15:02:19 pm CDT

most likely my Jarl...wiggles brows..licking a lusty gloss over painted lips

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:03:04 pm CDT
(lol Bretval, don't get me going on the schoolboy "In days of old" rhymes !!!!!)

Bretval {meral}: 15:05:46 pm CDT
now the story gets dangerous for al the Women....

They are mildly worried when they scent a sleen, but it doesn’t seem to be interested in them at present, and they come to a forest hut where Elinor is to be handed over. One of Verna’s band has been repeatedly suggesting that Elinor should be killed, and this time Verna seems to agree, but Elinor begs for her life and acknowledges herself slave. But being made to confess herself slave to a woman renders her more hostile to the notion that she might be a man’s slave, which is something of a retrograde step, and perhaps just a touch allegorical. However, as she is being handed over to her purchaser, she is stricken by a sudden fit of indignation that she should have fetched only one hundred arrow points. It seems to her that she was worth more, and this amuses the Panthers, as though they are familiar with the notion that she who argues about the price has already determined what kind of girl she is.

Elinor now enters the hut and begins screaming in terror, for reasons that will be divulged in the next chapter.

meral{Bretval} 15:08:03 pm CDT
elinor doesn't understand.....a girl is only worth what a Master will pay for her

ruby~{Randolph}~t 15:08:22 pm CDT
it has been girls experience that Gorean men do not deny themselves happiness and fulfillment in Their lives....thus see all Free Women as a potential slave

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:08:25 pm CDT
Elinor does seem to be very confused. Maybe the terror of her position. Perhaps though a realisation of her inner realisations.

Bretval {meral}: 15:09:17 pm CDT
A sleen in the area is always something to fear...

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:10:27 pm CDT
Very fierce and single minded in a hunt. Obviously looking for something other than the Panthers.

ruby~{Randolph}~t 15:11:49 pm CDT
when a sleen catches the scent..there is no stopping them...

Bretval {meral}: 15:12:07 pm CDT
but I agree that a hundred arrow points is a pretty small cost... but she is not much of a slave girl..... yet

ruby~{Randolph}~t 15:12:55 pm CDT
aye Master Bretval...the operative word "yet"

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:15:15 pm CDT
agree Bretval, still don't like the slut.

Bretval {meral}: 15:15:59 pm CDT

any more comment or thoughts before Chapter 10?
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 8   Forum Notes / Re: Euro-Forum notes..19-March-2017  on: Mar 20th, 2017, 4:21pm
Started by ruby~{Randolph}~t | Post by LionHeartofOld
Having not been able to be at this Forum I nonetheless would like to comment on the first topic.

I agree it is indeed a Master's choice on what the limits on His property will be.

That said it is NOT in My mind a Master's right to have a slave of His enter a room where she is not able to serve in the way the room requires. It seems to Me the Captains would be within Their rights to say that TO ENTER or be IN the Tavern without her Owner a slave's restrictions must allow her to for example say: lap, be touched and sexually teased, or even furred (which or all determined on what the Captains wish the atmosphere of the room to be.

Such a STANDARD would make it so Masters KNOW what at minimum is allowed with each girl in the Tavern.
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 9   General Board / With regret  on: Mar 20th, 2017, 3:06pm
Started by Sophie | Post by Sophie
It is with much regret that, due to the time zones, Jondalar and I will no longer be Free Companions. Sadly in the time Our tags have been up We haven't even been able to visit GS once together.
We will remain good friends and wish each Other well. Many thanks for those who spoke kindly for Us.......
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 10   Forum Notes / Re: Euro-Forum notes..19-March-2017  on: Mar 20th, 2017, 12:35pm
Started by ruby~{Randolph}~t | Post by ruby~{Randolph}~t
Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:12:37 pm CDT
I would advocate that the 'slave novels' mentioned by ruby should be part of the slave classes

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:13:40 pm CDT
any other comments??

meral{Bretval} 15:14:39 pm CDT

none from mea thank You Jarl

PAX 15:14:51 pm CDT

I have only read a few of the books but they do tend to give a understanding

rykl.{Keeper}~t~ 15:14:52 pm CDT
This girl likes that suggestion Jarl Randolph about the books and slave class

larissa{Austin} 15:15:05 pm CDT
nothing from larissa, thank you Jarl

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:16:01 pm CDT
In Summary some don't think the books need to be read, on the other hand some do.

I have to say I find that a very strange conclusion !!!!!

Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 15:16:18 pm CDT

I agree with both Randolph and rykl, good idea

Bretval {meral}: 15:17:08 pm CDT
the most important 'idea' could be separated out for slave class I think, Randolph

ruby~{Randolph}~t 15:18:04 pm CDT
indeed my Jarl..and those would be the ones that kajirae would enjoy best understand the inner meaning of a true slave be respectful...and not mouthy...just shudders

the fear may be the slaves running the manipulating the Free...not on purpose but by ignorance to the structure set forth in the books

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:20:50 pm CDT
agrees ruby - 4 years does have the effect of seeing things the same way !!!!!!!!

Another Topic

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:22:31 pm CDT
Topic 3: (no prizes for guessing who gave this topic)

When in the Tavern, I rarely drink ale, only when every one else is drinking ale will I do the same.
It is the same in Real Time. Not a beer drinker.
I tend to be careful what I say;
Same in Real Time

What idiosyncrasies, what small parts of your personality come through in Gor?

How much of your real personality is in Gor?

[Remember; no one is obliged to reveal anything about themselves in any way.]

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:23:59 pm CDT
I suspect a lot of My personality comes out in Gor, just adapted to the rp and Gorean situation

larissa{Austin} 15:24:39 pm CDT
most of larissa comes into Gor. larissa is very quiet and observes. doesnt really talk in whispers. and keeps to herself. she watches mostly. is pretty shy. it takes a lot for her to open up for somebody to get to know her.

PAX 15:25:10 pm CDT
I agree with Randolph I am as close to me in rt and Gor

larissa{Austin} 15:26:21 pm CDT

to add to that, larissa is the same way real time. it takes a lot for her to open up... and once the trust is broken it end the friendship. trust goes a very long way with larissa.

Bretval {meral}: 15:27:03 pm CDT

~LOL~ it is not the ale or whatever... big part of it is watching the girl serving...
same can be said for RT at times *WEG*

ruby~{Randolph}~t 15:28:41 pm CDT
girl would have to say..she tries to stay true to the Gorean serve and be deemed pleasing..ruby strives for that in rt too

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:29:01 pm CDT

I certainly agree with rissa on trust - once broken cannot be repaired. However, in GS I find most here to be as if they are themselves, even in rp. That is how it comes across to Me, maybe it is not the case !!!!!

larissa{Austin} 15:29:41 pm CDT
as far as servitude. larissa, is very submissive in her personal life. same way in Gor. that doesn't change. she hates conflict, and drama, easier to walk away then start a war.

meral{Bretval} 15:30:44 pm CDT
mea is the same RT as she is in Gor

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:33:46 pm CDT
I think it is difficult to rp for long periods in a character that is not one's own. So, any who have been here for a while do show their underlying character

Bretval {meral}: 15:34:06 pm CDT

*kiss* very true, mea
and I do agree with rissa... must be trust the bedrock in Gor or RT

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:35:51 pm CDT
any other comments on this topic??

meral{Bretval} 15:36:11 pm CDT
yes my Master....kiss

without trust no Oone can grow or learn

ruby~{Randolph}~t 15:37:11 pm CDT

agrees fully my Jarl

if Oone is belligerent, hostile and mouthy in doubt it will spill of to the role play...and life for a slave may become quite ugly

meral{Bretval} 15:39:18 pm CDT

very true ruby

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:39:55 pm CDT
As a Summary:

Overall it appears that a persons real character does come through in GS. Trust in others here is a prerequisite for people to settle in here.

ruby~{Randolph}~t 15:40:47 pm CDT
agrees with larissa
leave the drama and the pity parties at the gets so tiring

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:41:01 pm CDT
With that I close EForum for this week

I thank A/all for attending and for contributing to the topics

larissa{Austin} 15:42:27 pm CDT

thank you for leading Jarl Randolph, and His beauty for scribing

meral{Bretval} 15:42:51 pm CDT
Thank You for leading Jarl Randolph

thank you for scribing ruby

Bretval {meral}: 15:43:12 pm CDT
thank You for leading Randolph and the lovely ruby for scribing

ruby~{Randolph}~t 15:44:42 pm CDT
thank You for leading my Beloved Jarl...kisses

ruby~{Randolph}~t 15:46:16 pm CDT
rolls up the parchment swiftly

as always a joy to serve my Jarls Home
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