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Captive of Gor - Book seven
Chapter 6 - "I Encounter Targo, Who is a Slaver
Chapter 7 - "I, With Others, Am Taken Northward


Jarl Randolph
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Bretval {meral}: 13:39:44 pm CST
well despite the number in GS I think it is time to begin

ruby~{Randolph}~t 13:40:15 pm CST
poises nib to milled linen rence parchment...listens intently

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:40:35 pm CST
listens to Bretval

meral{Bretval} 13:40:48 pm CST
~sapphires lift to her Master....listens~

Bretval {meral}: 13:41:54 pm CST
Chapter Six

Awakening in the strange surroundings, Elinor is at first moved to despair at the thought she must surely perish of hunger and thirst, but she soon has her spirits lifted by finding berries and water. Still, given a choice between bare subsistence and a safe return to her own home, Elinor naturally favours the latter, and as soon as she hears human voices she makes a beeline for them. They prove to be of somewhat strange aspect to her eyes, not least because the female members of the company are fastened to a wagon-harness and everyone is oddly dressed.

The language barrier makes its presence felt at once; Elinor, a typical Anglophone, expects Earth's most widely spoken non-native language to be as current here as at home, and of course it is not, and the leader of the natives, whom she has heard addressed as Targo, has the same expectation of his own language. (If that name, Targo, and the fact that he has a one-eyed henchman, rings a bell, then so it should. We met this pair back in "Outlaw of Gor" when they were temporarily in possession of Lara, Tatrix of Tharna.) After a while she notices that a word or two of this language sounds rather like what her kidnappers spoke to each other, which she can't help finding scary. She is reassured, though, to note that this bunch are apparently Iron Age savages, although this does mean putting her plan of return to Earth on hold pro tem.

Bretval {meral}: 13:45:20 pm CST
From the start on this new planet Elior finds that she is truly A Stranger in a Strange World

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:45:54 pm CST
It would have been quite frightening for her, seeing the girls like that, slowly dawning on her what they were being used for.

meral{Bretval} 13:46:37 pm CST

and hearing such a strange language again

ruby~{Randolph}~t 13:47:10 pm CST

and here again Elinor wanders alone in the fields of this new world, she doesn't know...coming upon the Slaver Targo...shocked that the wagon is pulled by harnessed slaves not oxen

Bretval {meral}: 13:50:18 pm CST

And without the interdicting of her knowledge of English... that can be frightening to anyone ...

ruby~{Randolph}~t 13:50:32 pm CST
indeed mea
however Elinor still thinks she can "buy" her way back to Urth...

meral{Bretval} 13:51:28 pm CST
yes ruby, she will learn money cannot buy everything

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:51:55 pm CST
I like the way JN will weave characters from one book to another

Bretval {meral}: 13:52:27 pm CST
*lol* agreed ruby... the girl has no clue as to what she is going to face

meral{Bretval} 13:53:14 pm CST
mea is hoping Hup the fool will pop up again Jarl

Bretval {meral}: 13:53:36 pm CST

particularly if you have no money, mea

ruby~{Randolph}~t 13:53:47 pm CST
true enough mea

Elinor, the Park Avenue, spoiled pampered arrogant woman..will soon learn her place among Gorean Men

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:54:12 pm CST
Ah yes, Hup, it would be good to see him again

meral{Bretval} 13:54:40 pm CST
very true my Master and ruby

meral{Bretval} 13:55:28 pm CST
her platinum credit card won't work on Gor

ruby~{Randolph}~t 13:55:56 pm CST
lol @ mea

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:56:41 pm CST
she will have to learn to use the assets she has

Bretval {meral}: 13:56:56 pm CST
moving on....

Putting her brain to work, she reasons that Targo & co are so on edge because they have lately been attacked, and she proceeds to speculate as to the nature of the beautiful women harnessed to the wagon. A flush of purely female jealousy sweeps over her, indeed, at the realisation that a generous half of the group are more beautiful than she is, and she has to comfort herself with the thought of her presumed intellectual superiority and greater sophistication.

However, Targo is running out of patience with her. She has no means to communicate with him except body language, and when she irritates him beyond endurance by trying to impress on him his uselessness and stupidity, he has her stripped, and her hitherto hidden brand is made visible to all. The guards laugh over this, exclaiming "Kajira!", which is lost on Elinor, but after Targo has had a brief laugh on his own account, he angrily orders one of the girls, Lana by name, to give Elinor a whipping. It's not a very severe whipping, but it is absolutely the first blow that has ever been applied to Elinor and it has a profound impact on her.

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:58:51 pm CST
and the first whipping is the actual start of her slavery. Probably something she will always remember

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:02:07 pm CST
yes my Jarl
a whipping is not something a girl easily forgets

Lana must be first girl on the display chain of Targos...Elinor learns she had better submit to the whip...or endure another beating

Bretval {meral}: 14:02:54 pm CST
I agree, Randolph she is quickly learns that all her intelligence and sophistication mean nothing on Gor.... there she is a babe in arms at the moment

Bretval {meral}: 14:05:11 pm CST
like any new slave girl Elinor has to learn the rules and protocols of her new world

meral{Bretval} 14:08:02 pm CST
~nods agreeing with her Master~

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:08:37 pm CST

wiggles not to get ahead

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:08:50 pm CST
a shock to her system, suddenly knowing everything had now changed for her

Bretval {meral}: 14:09:35 pm CST
as Wwe see right away,,, it is truly fortunate that she is intelligent and quick to understand....

She soon gets Targo's point when he drops a heavy hint that she should grovel and abase herself before him, and she gets hitched to the wagon along with the other girls and made to pull it. One of the girls identifies herself as "Ute", and gives Elinor some very minor cause for celebration by apparently liking her; but Elinor drops a notch in Ute's estimation almost at once, and also sets a trend for how her character is going to show itself, when they are put to work hauling the wagon and she tries to shirk her share of the work. Of course she doesn't get away with it; and the realisation horrifies her, as up to now she has had her way with pretty much everyone she has ever met, and it frightens her to think that such as fine woman as she is must now be treated the same as some barbarian peasant girl. But at least she stays conscious right to the end of this chapter, for which achievement she is probably owed some kind of accolade.

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:10:17 pm CST
chuckles my Jarl
that's an understatement

one learns swiftly not to shirk her duties

meral{Bretval} 14:11:41 pm CST
a big shock Jarl, mea guesses she had never done any physical work in her life

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:12:33 pm CST
well, the thought of the next whipping should help keep her conscious

Bretval {meral}: 14:14:08 pm CST
There are no pampered slave girls in a working journey amongst slave traders

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:14:15 pm CST
yes, mea, work hard or the whip, a great learning experience

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:14:29 pm CST
tastes the bile of fear on her tongue

this one stays conscious, under Your kurt my Jarl..shudders with memory

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:16:17 pm CST

Elinor soon learns her place...submitting to her Owner Targo...placating and kissing His sandals

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:16:49 pm CST
looks at My Gorean girl, smiling

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:18:39 pm CST
nuzzles against my Jarl...returning His smile with one of her own

Bretval {meral}: 14:19:15 pm CST

Any other thought or comments on Chapter 6?

meral{Bretval} 14:19:49 pm CST

none from mea thank You my Master

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:20:12 pm CST
no Master Bretval
none from this lowly beast

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:20:57 pm CST
at the beginning of this book we saw that Elinor is a kettle slave, it will be interesting to see why she could not achieve a higher status

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:21:30 pm CST
No, Bretval, nothing more here

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Bretval {meral}: 14:21:32 pm CST
Chapter Seven

We rejoin Elinor a little later. She fills in some background about Targo that she must surely have learned rather later, as she doesn't have the necessary command of the language to have learned it yet - and, for that matter, she can't possibly have learned all that Gorean geography just yet, either.

Much of what she now tells us is not especially relevant, but the fact that Lana seems to be in charge of the females, though deferring absolutely to the men, does very much concern Elinor, especially given that Lana doesn't like her. Neither does anyone else, for that matter, and Ute is still cross with Elinor for not pulling her weight. We also, being regular readers of the Gor series, will be interested to learn that this Lana was trained in Ar, in the house of Cernus, and so is assuredly the same Lana who used to delight in giving Virginia Kent such a hard time.

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:23:48 pm CST
Maybe Lana just can't stand barbarians

meral{Bretval} 14:23:48 pm CST

she still believes herself better than the other girls my Master

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:24:44 pm CST
ruby found it interesting that Lana was displayed last on the coffle display chain...where the most attractive merchandise may be seen

Bretval {meral}: 14:25:18 pm CST
No surprise that the little princess is disliked by everyone

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:26:54 pm CST
shudders at the word "princess"

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:27:27 pm CST
Also not pulling her weight will not make her any friends

Bretval {meral}: 14:28:01 pm CST

A bit more apparently unimportant information....

We also learn that Targo's sorry condition when we met him was due to having been attacked by an outlaw tarnsman called Rask of Treve. We first heard of Treve back in Book Three, though we've never been there, and we know enough of it to say that the phrase "an outlaw from Treve" is almost a tautology. Rask, on the other hand, we've as yet heard nothing of, but let's pay attention to this piece of name-dropping anyway.

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:30:11 pm CST
Yes, Bretval, I have learned that JN does not put into his books any irrelevant stories that don't come up later

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:30:47 pm CST
Rask of Treve was the head of the Tarnsmen that ambushed Targos wagons...ransacking His booty...leaving Him one wagon and several slaves...but most importantly His gold

meral{Bretval} 14:31:33 pm CST
wondered why He didn't take the gold

Bretval {meral}: 14:32:21 pm CST
it is very important to remember that all Targo's inventory is going to be sold... so there is no knowing where Elinor will eventually end up....

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:32:48 pm CST
Perhaps it was well hidden in the wagon somewhere

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:33:44 pm CST
Targos crew escaped into the trees, as girls memory recalls...the Tarnsman retreated

Bretval {meral}: 14:35:18 pm CST
moving on...

Life gets a bit easier when Targo encounters a merchant caravan and is able to buy some supplies and transport, and Elinor learns to wear a camisk (a kind of poncho, but worn on the square instead of the diagonal). Indeed, although Elinor has figured out that she and the other girls are all slaves, most of them seem not too unhappy with their lot. They play in the river with one of the guards, who gives one of them a good ducking, which is only a couple of letters of the alphabet away from the normal treatment of a slave girl, and then Lana and two other girls proceed to entertain the group with a biting caricature of Elinor. Miserably, Elinor approaches Ute and humbles herself by way of apology, and Ute, who is plainly kind at heart, at once forgives her and starts to make a pet of her.

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:35:46 pm CST
didn't you like when the girls made their own camsiks?..

meral{Bretval} 14:36:08 pm CST

lol my Master

meral{Bretval} 14:36:54 pm CST
yes ruby and swimming in the river

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:37:46 pm CST
Yes, Ute is a nice girl and with watching.

Bretval {meral}: 14:38:40 pm CST
*nodding to ruby* Tarns are really at a disadvantage when facing a forest.... they are truly open field creatures in battles

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:39:44 pm CST
indeed mea

Men enjoy dressing and displaying their slave, to provoke envy from other Men...may the PKs have mercy on a girls soul, if she does not present well to her Masters Friends

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:40:46 pm CST
yes ruby, the same sentiments true on urth even today

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:43:06 pm CST
yes my Jarl...nestles

loved when Ute and Elinor become grooming each other

and finally Ute and Inge teach Elinor the Gorean lingo

Bretval {meral}: 14:44:27 pm CST
*grin to Randolph* and today the clothing for Urth women are getting quite slave girl chic

Bretval {meral}: 14:46:05 pm CST

She begins to learn Gorean, and learns it quite well and grammatically from one of the girls, who is a Scribe, and almost at once starts to look down her nose at Ute, who speaks only lower-class Gorean; but she keeps her assumed superiority under wraps for now.

Elinor is put back in her place soon after when the caravan meets a free woman, one Lady Rena, and she is made to kowtow in front of her, which she resents. She scores herself a minor point when it's time to pick berries, as she steals some of Ute's so as to get her own work done the sooner, and also steals a few for herself. This is trivial in itself, but it tells us something about Elinor's pettiness and how she repays kindness. A little later the Lady Rena herself is picked up by Targo, stripped and branded, and Elinor promptly has a holiday in her heart at the realisation that she now has someone lower on the totem pole than herself, and can get a bit of her own back for the condescending treatment the Free Woman offered her; but Ute is, of course, much kinder to the luckless Lady Rena, which makes Elinor fit to spit feathers.

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:46:07 pm CST
lol, Bretval, so true, maybe the women will eventually discover they are Gorean after all

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:48:37 pm CST
Interesting to see the characters of the girls coming out here. Leopards and spot.

meral{Bretval} 14:49:57 pm CST
yes Jarl......Elinor is still petty and selfish

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:51:06 pm CST
the FW Rena of Lydius is told she will be sold to a Captain of Cos...for 100 peces of extraordinary price even One of high class...a Builders Caste

Bretval {meral}: 14:52:28 pm CST

Very true Randolph.... they can be leopards amongst themselves... but Wwe must remember at all times that Free Men rule.. and that does help deep the bitchiness in check to some extent

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:53:13 pm CST

grinning from ear to ear
in the latter part of this Chapter...Wwe learn that Gorean Masters believe all woman carry a slave within themselves

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:53:24 pm CST
that's women, Bretval.

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:55:14 pm CST

Thinks I must have some Gorean in me after all !!!!!

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:56:15 pm CST doubt my Master...girl knew that on June 4, 2013... mmmm

Bretval {meral}: 14:58:07 pm CST
there is a certain truth in that, ruby.... but Wwe must always keep in mind what it means to be a Free Woman on Gor... from how She must dress to how she must act to Free Men...
no surprise that a FW want the freedom of slavery

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:58:43 pm CST
yes, Master Bretval

meral{Bretval} 14:59:01 pm CST

yes my Master

Bretval {meral}: 15:01:09 pm CST
Any final thoughts or comments before I end the Session?

meral{Bretval} 15:01:52 pm CST
nothing from mea thank You my Master

ruby~{Randolph}~t 15:01:56 pm CST

none here Master Bretval
thank You

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:01:58 pm CST
None here, Bretval, except to say this book is very thought provoking

Bretval {meral}: 15:04:47 pm CST

Indeed it is Randolph...

vey well GRS is at an end and I thank Aall for taking part and particularly a thank to ruby for scribing

ruby~{Randolph}~t 15:05:47 pm CST
thank You Master Bretval for leading another fine book club

another wonderful cliffhanger

Elinor finding herself helpless to the whims of Gorean Men

meral{Bretval} 15:06:00 pm CST

Thank You so much for leading GRS my Master......kiss

hugs and thanks ruby for scribing

Bretval {meral}: 15:06:44 pm CST

For next week read Chapters 8 to 10

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:06:45 pm CST

Many thanks for leading such an interesting GRS, Bretval, your manner of presenting does bring out some interesting aspects which can be glossed over when reading the book alone.

Kisses the scribe

meral{Bretval} 15:07:18 pm CST
yes my Master

ruby~{Randolph}~t 15:07:57 pm CST
rolls up the parchment swiftly

as always a gift to serve my Jarls Home
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