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Hunters of Gor
Chapter 8 - We Wait in the Camp of Verna
Chapter 9 - There is a Meeting of the Hunters

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Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 13:42:42 pm CDT
Time to begin...

Chapter Eight

Having formed and discarded several alternative plans, Bosk is intent on a nice straightforward and confusion-free approach: he and ten men will attack the Panther camp at dawn, armed with sleen nets, and take the girls captive that way. He has no objection to conceding the Panthers favourable odds, and it is only because Arn and some friends arrived opportunely that Bosk even bothers with as many as ten men. These are, after all, only women he is after, and he doesn’t expect very stern resistance when the Panthers don’t have the advantage of ambush.

Surprisingly, the camp proves to be empty. This brings the current plan to an abrupt halt, and Bosk and his merry band have to decide what to do next. Waiting until the next day to execute the original plan is one option, though not free of drawbacks; but Arn has an alternative suggestion, which sounds both efficacious and appealing to their sense of irony. They will conceal themselves within the camp and wait for Verna’s return, when they can pounce on the unsuspecting Panthers in what they doubtless viewed as the security of their own home. The tedium of waiting can be relieved to some extent by the half-dozen bottles of vintage wine the Panthers have carelessly left lying around.

Did anyone’s short hairs go up at that last sentence?

ruby~{Randolph}~t 13:43:43 pm CDT
poises writing stick to finely milled rence parchment - listening intently

meral{Bretval} 13:45:06 pm CDT
Bosk really doesn't think the Panther girls are very clever

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 13:46:31 pm CDT
Methinks Verna is thinking like Bosk.... and acting on what She expects Him to do

meral{Bretval} 13:47:15 pm CDT
very good thought my Master

ruby~{Randolph}~t 13:47:42 pm CDT
indeed mea, leaving that Ka-la-na wine behind was intentional..to leave Bosks Men inebriated

meral{Bretval} 13:48:21 pm CDT
mea did wonder when previously the Panther girls had guarded their rewards so well, why would the bottles just be left lying around

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 13:48:37 pm CDT
I agree, mea... but possibly more clever than a bunch of warriors with nothing to do but wait

meral{Bretval} 13:50:15 pm CDT
It's takes courage and intelligence to live in a Forest my Master.....Bosk seems to have forgotten that

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 13:51:37 pm CDT
Of course Bosk is not such a fool as to allow his men to get drunk, but he has no objection to letting them share one bottle between the ten of them, himself included; no-one ever got sloshed on one mouthful of Ka-la-na, even if it is all the way from Ar. But - and this is truly astonishing, considering how Elinor Brinton nearly murdered him at the climax of the previous book - it doesn’t occur to him until much too late that there might be something in the wine. Scarcely has he got the last swallow down his throat than he curses himself and all of them for foolishness, but by then the damage is done. Naturally the wine was not left there out of generosity. One after another, Arn and Bosk last of all, the men fall drugged to the ground, there to be captured by the returning Panthers.

This denouement is hardly surprising in view of the hubris Bosk has been exhibiting in the last few chapters, and for what will follow, when Bosk does indeed get to meet Verna at last, and for the latest developments in Marlenus’s own hunting, and for what the mysterious Rhoda is up to, we shall have to wait until next month, and another slice of the eighth book in the Gorean cycle.

ruby~{Randolph}~t 13:52:02 pm CDT
hoping not to get ahead
ruby loved the part where it was discussed not wishing to set a fire in the forests..thus injuring the land

"Goreans care for their world. They love the sky, the plains, the sea, the rain in the summer, the snow in the winter. They will sometimes stand and watch clouds. The movement of grass in the wind is very beautiful to them. More than one Gorean poet has sung of the leaf of a Tur tree. I have known warriors who cared for the beauty of small flowers."

Hunters of Gor - pg. 102

meral{Bretval} 13:54:11 pm CDT

and the wind can change in an instant.....no Oone can predict the direction of a Forest fire

ruby~{Randolph}~t 13:58:13 pm CDT
didnt realize the wine had been drugged...did You Master?

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 13:58:16 pm CDT
Agreed ruby.. it is of Course not possible to have no effect on the land and have a civilization... but working to minimize the effect is an honorable goal

meral{Bretval} 13:59:47 pm CDT
mea was amazed Bosk wasn't more aware of being able to just walk into a Panther girls camp just like that

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:02:28 pm CDT
signature knots were also brought up again in this Chapter...like in Priest Kings

One can tell if Another have entered without authorization

every Male has Their own way of tying a knot

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 14:02:51 pm CDT
Oh yes I expected it... if the wine had been found properly stored then I would have been surprized at the effect.. but just lying about inviting ... begging to be downed... no surprise

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:05:01 pm CDT
no surprise Master
however didnt know it had been additionally drugged as the synopsis indicated..

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 14:07:25 pm CDT
Yes signature knots are mentioned in a few of the books

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:09:23 pm CDT
well no doubt Bosk and His Men were left were trapped

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 14:10:00 pm CDT
I expect all the wine was drugged *grin*n a waste of good wine but certain to put all the hunters out of commision

meral{Bretval} 14:10:36 pm CDT
The Panther girls will of been watching the camp all the time mea thinks

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 14:10:53 pm CDT
time to move on....

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 14:12:18 pm CDT
Chapter Nine

Regaining his senses many hours later, Bosk finds himself stripped naked, bound hand and foot, and subjected to the inspection of a skin-clad Panther Woman. He makes a bluff attempt to claim the rights of prisoners, which has to rank as both enormous optimism and massive hypocrisy, since he was intent upon enslaving all the women he could succeed in capturing. Kindly, his captor doesn’t even ridicule him for his cheek; but he has precious little else to be cheerful about.

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 14:15:53 pm CDT
His claim of rights of prisoner might have worked in a city... but in the wilds... I think not... sound like desperation to Me

meral{Bretval} 14:16:11 pm CDT
Finding Himself captured as a slave once more...

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:16:20 pm CDT
oh dear
Bosk now slave - a degradation strip of hair shaven - sighs - a Man who has fallen to Women

meral{Bretval} 14:17:20 pm CDT
as a slave He has no rights, no anything

meral{Bretval} 14:17:59 pm CDT
and a bad haircut

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 14:18:15 pm CDT
Verna (for it is indeed she) interviews Bosk, admittedly under conditions that he doubtless finds somewhat distressing, and almost seems to pity his foolishness in coming after Talena at all, never mind his shocking lack of competence. It turns out that Talena has been permitted to send her father Marlenus, Ubar of Ar, a letter in which she begged to be purchased and freed. Since referring to herself in such a manner admits that she is now something that can be bought and sold, and is tantamount to proclaiming herself slave, Marlenus has disowned her, and so Bosk’s plans for her have come to naught. There is no implicit status whatever in becoming the Free Companion of a slave, no matter who she might have been when she was free.

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 14:21:25 pm CDT
sounds like all His wishful thinking and planning have finally crashed and burned

meral{Bretval} 14:22:14 pm CDT
yes my Master

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:22:34 pm CDT
yikes
Talena has been taught her slavery by Verna - thus she now despises Men....even Bosk this one supposes

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 14:23:13 pm CDT
As for Marlenus, Mira, who is Verna’s lieutenant, informs Bosk that, after disowning his daughter, he has returned to Ar and given up the hunt. Verna meanwhile recommends to Bosk that he put Talena from his mind. He looks bitterly on the ruin of his dreams, as well he might - and the reader who has been patiently waiting ever since Book Two for Tarl, as he then was, to find the great love of his life once more, may share his feelings. Sorry. Try Edgar Rice Burroughs’s “Barsoom” chronicles if you want that kind of happy ending. Evidently Norman had given up on pastiche by the time he got this far in the series (although I for one would be curious to know if this was how he intended things panning out back when he finished “Tarnsman”).

Bosk’s immediate future is as a plaything of Verna and her band. He acquires the shaven stripe of degradation that marks those who have been captured by Panthers, and as the moons head towards the full -

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 14:26:05 pm CDT
Oh look a bad haircut

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ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:26:08 pm CDT
there is a Gorean saying by the Panther Girls

that any girl who permits herself to fall to Mens desires , in her heart desires to be Their slave

meral{Bretval} 14:27:24 pm CDT
Bosk is certainly in a desperate situation

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:29:18 pm CDT
seems there will be no "happy ending" for Bosk...chuckles

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 14:29:50 pm CDT
agreed mea...

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:33:34 pm CDT
Verna had plans to sell Talena in Tyros - a bitter enemy of Bosk of Port Kar

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 14:35:00 pm CDT
Well lets finish the Chapter with a quick look at planetary movements...

Actually, that is quite interesting. Could they really be in a close orbit around Gor, two of them in the Trojan points of the third, and so close to their primary that their phases really do change appreciably during the course of a single night, as the Martian moons do? Unfortunately, Norman never tells us. Oh that he had had, say, a Larry Niven’s grasp of hard science. Anyway -

As the moons head towards the full and the Panthers show visible signs of discomfiture, he is made the centrepiece of a savage, erotic dance, staked out supine at the centre of it. Many red-blooded adolescents of all ages may well feel that, if Panthers really do look like the girl on the front cover of the book (Star edition - I can’t speak for the rest - and I ran on about what she looks like a couple of months back), being gang-banged by a dozen or so supremely gorgeous women would be by no means a fate worse than death. That’s not the point. To anyone who understands anything of manhood as it is explored in the Gor books, the humiliation and degradation attendant upon the surrender of one’s dominance is of far greater moment, and Bosk is enraged by the prospect even as his own body’s physical responses betray him.

However, just as Verna explains to Bosk, in case he really was as slow on the uptake as his embarrassing capture might have suggested, that he is about to be raped, the festivities are interrupted by the arrival of a gate-crasher. It is, almost inevitably, Marlenus of Ar.

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 14:37:01 pm CDT
Not a 'happy ending' ruby but not as bad as He thought it would be

meral{Bretval} 14:38:07 pm CDT
lol my Master

meral{Bretval} 14:39:05 pm CDT
mea breathed a sigh of relief reading Marlenus had come back

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:39:10 pm CDT
laughs Master
especially when the Ubar of Ar..arrives just in time to save our Hero from being raped under the three full moons by beautiful Women

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 14:39:44 pm CDT
Apparently Bosk was lied to... and as for Verna's plans...
well She will have to re-think that

meral{Bretval} 14:40:55 pm CDT
oh yes my Master....a big re-think.....zips lips as not to get ahead

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 14:42:22 pm CDT
Any other thoughts or comment?

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:42:56 pm CDT
bites her lips
Verna will have all the time in the world to think about her peril

in the mean time Bosk suffers a beating by Mira in front of Verna when Bosk inquired about the fate of His Men

meral{Bretval} 14:44:04 pm CDT
nothing from mea thank You my Master

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:45:34 pm CDT
nothing more from this slut

thank You Master

oh rubys favorite quote was in this Chapter..may she please post it?

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 14:45:58 pm CDT
Well if Mira did not break any bones He will recover .. at least physically... but mentally ... that remainss to be revealed

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 14:47:17 pm CDT
You may post it ruby

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:47:45 pm CDT
oh sorry girl can't find it

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 14:50:10 pm CDT
whenever, ruby... go ahead and post it

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:51:02 pm CDT
girl will try to find it for the scribe to the corks

found
"He looked on her intently. He studied her. He gave her great attention. She turned her head to one side, her wrists secured in many turns of the binding fiber, her fists clenched....on earth many men did not even know their wives...Never, truly had they seen them. But a Gorean Master will know every inch, and care for every inch, of one of his slave girls. He will know every hair, every sweet blemish of her. In a way she is nothing to him, for she is only a slave. But in another way she is very important to him. She is one of his women. He will know her. He will want to know her completely, every inch of her body, every inch of her mind. Nothing less will satisfy him. She is his property. He will choose to know his property thoroughly."
Hunters of Gor Book 8 Page 125


Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 14:51:04 pm CDT
Okay that is it for today

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:51:59 pm CDT
thank You for leading Master Bretval..another thrilling cliff hanger

meral{Bretval} 14:52:56 pm CDT
Thank You for leading my Master....kiss

thank you for scribing ruby....hugs

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:54:11 pm CDT
rolls up the scribe swiftly
as always a pleasure to serve my Jarls Home
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