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Marauders of Gor - Book nine
Chapter 11 - The Tolvaldsberg
Chapter 12 - Ivar Forkbeard Introduces Himself to Svein Blue Tooth
Chapter 13 - Visitors in the Hall of Svein Blue Tooth


Jarl Randolph
Master Bretval - Moderator

ruby{Randolph}~t - scribe

Bretval {meral}: 13:43:43 pm CST
OK I think it is the time to begin

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:44:12 pm CST
sits back, listening

meral{Bretval} 13:44:34 pm CST
~settles turning her attention to her Master~

ruby~{Randolph}~t 13:44:37 pm CST
poises nib to finely milled rence parchment...listens intently

Bretval {meral}: 13:45:08 pm CST
Chapter Eleven

Already during this adventure Tarl has had one close look at a Kur, but that was a sickly runt, and this one is a Kur of another colour, nine feet high and massing more than a third of a ton. It addresses the Torvaldslanders as “Fellow rational creatures!” and claims to come in peace, requiring passage for a host of thousands of its kind who wish to head south. Tarl conjectures that these are exiles from the “steel worlds”, the giant spacecraft that are parked somewhere in the outer reaches of the solar system; descendants of those who have been banished, or survivors of skirmishes with Priest-King patrollers who have been allowed to “go native” on Gor.

meral{Bretval} 13:46:52 pm CST
the description made mea think of a huge bear

Bretval {meral}: 13:47:17 pm CST
Now that is big.. Just the size is frightening

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:47:42 pm CST
Krurii are an enigma, really, but make the Gorean books more interesting when they are around

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:48:24 pm CST
that's how I picture them too, mea.

Bretval {meral}: 13:49:00 pm CST
A very smart bear, mea

ruby~{Randolph}~t 13:49:38 pm CST
it was obvious to the Jarls that these Kurii were not from the the North..due to the color of their not adept to the frigid climate...Torvaldslanders were no fools

meral{Bretval} 13:49:43 pm CST
mea wonders why they are travelling to the South

Bretval {meral}: 13:50:08 pm CST
The Kur ambassador tries mightily to convince the Torvaldslanders that its kind are, in defiance of the evidence, peace-loving agriculturists. Ivar Forkbeard raises a question from the floor, as to what crop the Kurii wish to farm after they have been allowed to pass; and after looking momentarily enraged, the Kur responds “Sa-Tarna”, Gorean wheat. A debate ensues concerning what fee the Kurii should pay in order to be allowed to pass. While this proceeds, Tarl is thinking fast. It is plain to him that this incursion is a deliberate attempt to assess the strength of the Priest-Kings and their willingness to fight; and that if the Priest-Kings choose to preserve a policy of strict neutrality, Man could be exterminated and, eventually, the Priest-Kings as well. It is also a distinct possibility that the Kurii intend no peaceful passage of Torvaldsland, but a sneak attack when their march has made large inroads into the country. Of course, he reasons, the Kur could be telling the truth; they might have thrown off the shackles of their predatory past, and have much to teach mankind, who in their turn might “overcome our manhood, and become one with the snails, the Kurii and the flowers".

Bretval {meral}: 13:52:04 pm CST
Food Supply, mea

meral{Bretval} 13:53:03 pm CST
Is that the truth though my Master?

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:53:36 pm CST
It I apparent that everyone is very suspicious of the Kur. But he does sound persuasive on the face of it

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:55:09 pm CST
they enjoy eating humans, particularly tasty little slave girls, but are they vegetarian??

ruby~{Randolph}~t 13:55:29 pm CST
what girl found interesting Kur and Man have brain, a desire to populate...the difference being the Kurii have an innate capacity to kill and Man does not

meral{Bretval} 13:56:06 pm CST
~eyes go wide hearing Jarl~

Bretval {meral}: 13:56:34 pm CST
Any animal that his fangs needs them for eating and humans are fairly soft and could supply as the Food Supply for thousands and thousands of
Kurii, mea

ruby~{Randolph}~t 13:56:48 pm CST
chuckles my Jarl..the Kurii love the taste of soft females..they are considered a delicacy

Bretval {meral}: 13:59:01 pm CST
And of course, Tarl has the advantage of knowing of the war between Priest-Kings and Kurii

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:00:43 pm CST
the Kurii, vegetarians?..hardly, it is known they can not digest vegetable foods..thus farming Sa-tarna a ruse for other things..perhaps a way for the steel ships to invade

meral{Bretval} 14:00:46 pm CST
it is interesting the Kurii asked for peaceful passage rather than fighting

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:02:31 pm CST
indeed Master Bretval
however the Priest Kings did not meddle in the differences between Man and Kur - neither defying the laws of weaponry

Bretval {meral}: 14:02:48 pm CST
Wwe know that, ruby but it may not be common knowledge to most Goreans

meral{Bretval} 14:04:41 pm CST
agrees with ruby it has to be a ruse

Bretval {meral}: 14:05:26 pm CST
In fact most Goreans had no real idea what the Priest-Kings are or what weaponry or anything else they might have… If I recall correctly that is all third knowledge

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:06:36 pm CST
true, Bretval, and as I am of low caste I don't have a clue !!!!

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:06:40 pm CST
true Master Bretval..however, Tarl and Forkbeard had little doubt that given granted permission for the Kur to march south, the Kur would take over the lands

Bretval {meral}: 14:07:26 pm CST
But for now it is time to return to the Thing and the results of games.

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:08:15 pm CST
chuckles to my Jarl...You and Master Bretval are not privy to second knowledge that Gor is a sphere

Bretval {meral}: 14:08:33 pm CST
I agree, ruby

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:08:42 pm CST
But was the Kur's request rejected?

Bretval {meral}: 14:10:55 pm CST
I but I am, ruby… Remember I was born on Urth and like Tarl spent time in the service of the Priest-Kings

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:11:08 pm CST
my Jarl...the Kurs request has been taken under advisement ...laughing till she tips over

meral{Bretval} 14:11:30 pm CST
as a slave girl.....mea knows nothing

Bretval {meral}: 14:11:43 pm CST
Not yet, Randolph… We will see in time

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:12:32 pm CST
yes Master Bretval
a girl just meant that second knowledge means knowing Gor is not flat

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:13:59 pm CST
winks to mea
slaves are always at the mercy of Men..ruby knows nothing either

Bretval {meral}: 14:14:00 pm CST
Chapter Twelve

At the prizegiving Tarl receives his two talmits, a worthy achievement for an outlander, and then watches in trepidation as Ivar steps up to receive his own six. On questioning, he admits that “Thorgeir of Ax Glacier” is a pseudonym, and begs for a particularly binding oath guaranteeing him the peace of the Thing before admitting who he truly is. The Blue Tooth is agreeable to this, not least because there is much reflected glory merely in awarding the prize to such an outstanding champion, and proceeds to swear the peace of the Thing on “Thorgeir of Ax Glacier” on the Ring of Thor, and by the side of the ship, the shield’s rim, the sword’s edge, the fires of his hearth, the timbers of the hall, the pillars of the high seat, the grains of his fields, the boundary stones of his holdings, the locks on his chests and the salt on his tables. He even volunteers to add the bronze of his ladles and the bottoms of his butter pans to the oath, though Ivar graciously concedes these as unnecessary. The Forkbeard then unhoods himself and announces his identity.

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:16:25 pm CST
Not wanting to jump ahead, but really liked the oath given, and his reaction on finding out the truth.

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:17:12 pm CST

found it very interesting that salt determined the seating at the head Jarls table

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:17:38 pm CST
(glances at the two girls - little fibbers)

Bretval {meral}: 14:18:11 pm CST
Quite an oath that Blue Tooth had to swerve to

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:19:01 pm CST
It made it even more embarrassing on learning the truth - a typical Forkbeard ruse.

meral{Bretval} 14:19:25 pm CST
it was my Master

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:20:22 pm CST
yes my Jarl, as did Your slut..Forkbeard knew the Oath was not excessive

"One is reguarded as being honored when one rightly bestows

a lot can be read into that quote

Bretval {meral}: 14:20:28 pm CST
Now the question becomes will Blue Tooth live up to the oath?

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Bretval {meral}: 14:22:11 pm CST
Chapter Thirteen

Since the location shifts at once to the magnificent hall of Svein Blue Tooth, we may guess that no immediate disaster attended Ivar’s unmasking. Tarl tells us a lot about the seating arrangements before picking up from the end of the preceding chapter, when Svein nearly lost his temper, having to be forcibly restrained and forcefully reminded of the solemnity of his oath. It is only after lengthy consulation that Svein decides to honour his word, though visibly enraged, and Tarl admires him for it.

Ivar receives his six talmits from the Blue Tooth, and then leads the conversation around to the matter of his outlawry, the magnitude of his wergild, and the deeds of plunder he has lately been perpetrating. Svein, astonished, begins to suspect that Ivar might after all have amassed a hundred stone of gold, a man’s weight in carved Schendi sapphires, and the daughter of his enemy, and his mate, Bera, the Jarl’s Woman, reaches a similar conclusion. She herself invites Ivar to the coming feast, and the Jarl endorses her invitation.

meral{Bretval} 14:22:13 pm CST
Honour says He must live up to the oath

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:22:41 pm CST
I feel for him in his predicament - totally outwitted and has to try not to look a fool in front of everyone.

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:22:51 pm CST
Master Bretval...that is the sixty-four million dollar question..thinking the Runes will make it so

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:24:52 pm CST
Well, he took the honourable way out, eventually.

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:27:07 pm CST
what girl thought..the contests for the talmits..could be replicated into rp...climbing the mast pole, spear throwing, swimming, jumping long cervices etc..perhaps even singing and riddle guessing

meral{Bretval} 14:28:39 pm CST
a very good idea ruby

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:29:30 pm CST
likes riddles, singing??

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:30:36 pm CST Jarl
Forkbeard only took second place in guessing riddles

meral{Bretval} 14:30:49 pm CST
or dancing Jarl

Bretval {meral}: 14:31:04 pm CST
very true, ruby and something to be considered in the future festivals and games

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:31:44 pm CST
dancing mea?? thinks mea is a more accomplished dancer than me.

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:32:16 pm CST
ruby has that section earmarked Master Bretval

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:32:46 pm CST
bites lips not to get ahead

meral{Bretval} 14:32:51 pm CST
Jarl could use His disco moves maybe.....giggles

Bretval {meral}: 14:33:06 pm CST
Moving on…

We also hear the latest news concerning Thyri and Tarsk. She turns out to have enjoyed herself very much and now to be more or less the slave of a mere thrall, though his status has not altered at all; and after a good night’s wenching, Tarl and Ivar and his men attend the feast.

Without undue haste, and after all present have eaten and drunk well, Svein Blue Tooth brings up the subject of Ivar’s wergild. He has gold and sapphires brought in, and these are weighed out and found more than adequate in both quantity and quality. But Svein points out that there was a third condition to be met, and that the payment is not complete without Hilda the Haughty being handed over; and he stands by his word even over the protests of his own men, even though admitting that he is asking the impossible. Then Ivar plays his trump card. Hilda is brought in and her identity established. Indeed, it is revealed, to the delight of the Blue Tooth and the outrage of Bera, who has been expressing sympathy, that Hilda is not even a captive but a slave. Lost in admiration, Svein admits that the terms have been met, the wergild is paid, and Ivar’s outlawry is over.

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:33:43 pm CST
winks to mea...or dancing in the furs...mmm..gets lost in thought

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:34:06 pm CST
of course mea, but why the giggles - maybe mea has seen My disco dancing !!!!!

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:35:46 pm CST
mmmm...Thyri and Tarsk...thinking they are destined to be together

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:36:05 pm CST
A good passage - love the name hilda the haughty. - JN had a good sense of humour

meral{Bretval} 14:37:08 pm CST
Ivars plan has worked He is no longer an Outlaw

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:37:49 pm CST
a truly cunning plan

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:38:11 pm CST
loved the part of seeing Sevin Blue Tooths jaw drop seeing Hilda, drop her robes...exposing the collar of Forkbeard

Bretval {meral}: 14:38:35 pm CST
Very true, mea.. But at an unbelievable cost

Bretval {meral}: 14:41:43 pm CST
Or is it done and over?
There seems to be some doubt of that * LOL * Forkbeard really wants to pull this out to the edge

meral{Bretval} 14:42:49 pm CST
good point my Master

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:42:54 pm CST
and all those jewels..the sapphires...Bera the FW of Blue tooth when seen ... thought His FC would yield right then and there

Bretval {meral}: 14:43:23 pm CST
But Ivar is not as straightforward as all that. He feigns misunderstanding, and then points out that the wergild is
not, after all, paid. He has, it is true, amassed the wherewithal to do so: but it is not paid until he chooses to pay it, and this he will not do. He has proved his ability to accomplish the impossible and so make it clear that he also has the power to refuse to accomplish it. This development astonishes everyone present, including Tarl; even he has been given no hint of the Forkbeard’s intentions. But, though Ivar’s decision might lead to his own death as well as the Forkbeard’s, Tarl can scarce forbear to cheer, and neither can the Blue Tooth’s own men. This has been rightfully acclaimed as one of the outstanding dramatic moments in the entire series.

For a moment all is hushed. Will the Blue Tooth order Ivar’s death, or will he manfully admit himself to have been in the wrong all along? This would be an act of tremendous magnanimity, and yet perhaps not beyond Svein’s compass. But we do not find out. A smell of smoke and sound of burning herald the beginning of a treacherous assault, and the doors of the hall are flung open to reveal the Kur ambassador at the head of a host of its kind, in full panoply of war; and to the accompaniment of a terrible bestial howling, the monsters burst in intent on massacring Svein Blue Tooth and all within his hall.

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:43:27 pm CST
everyone at this stage is in a state of total shock, surprise and wonder

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:45:38 pm CST
and perhaps now another of my favourites, Rollo the Axe will make a re appearance

Bretval {meral}: 14:46:39 pm CST
You just cannot trust the Kur

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:47:45 pm CST
and they have the element of surprise

meral{Bretval} 14:48:20 pm CST
a real advantage Jarl

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:48:22 pm CST
can almost smell the hint of tharlarion oil in a cauldron..will Tarl and Forkbeard make it out in one piece..or boiled alive??

Bretval {meral}: 14:48:24 pm CST
We will have to wait to see about that, Randolph * LOL *

Bretval {meral}: 14:50:25 pm CST
Well, ruby we know Tarl will or there would be no more books… As to the others will we will find out next time * grin *

meral{Bretval} 14:50:48 pm CST
Wwe will have to wait and see ruby lol

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:50:59 pm CST
ohhh, what a cliff hanger

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:51:44 pm CST
so very exciting indeed

Bretval {meral}: 14:52:14 pm CST
So be sure to read the next three chapters of the book

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:52:16 pm CST
This is a good part of the book

meral{Bretval} 14:53:01 pm CST
yes my Master

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:53:40 pm CST
Thanks for a very good session, Bretval

kisses the scribe

gives mea a big smile, always good to hear her comments

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:53:40 pm CST
yes Master Bretval will do...just loves this saga

Bretval {meral}: 14:53:54 pm CST
A very good part of the book...

meral{Bretval} 14:55:07 pm CST
Thank You my Master for leading...kiss

thank you ruby for scribing...hugs

smiles....and to hear Your comments too Jarl....thank You

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:55:48 pm CST
thank You Master Bretval for leading a fine session

Bretval {meral}: 14:56:10 pm CST
Also a very good tale for Jarl Randolph given the setting

Bretval {meral}: 14:56:29 pm CST
And I thank you all for attending

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:57:06 pm CST
Yes, indeed, Bretval. Feels almost at home there !!!

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:57:41 pm CST
kisses my Master tenderly
rolls up the sacred scroll, as always a pleasure to serve my Jarls Home
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