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Gorean Reading Society: 06-February-2018
Post by ruby~{Randolph}~t on Feb 6th, 2018, 4:33pm

Marauders of Gor - Book nine
Chapter 16 - The War Arrow
Chapter 17 - Torvaldslanders Visit the Camp of Kuii

attending:

attending:
Jarl Randolph
Master Bretval

meral{Bretval}
sura{Austin}
ruby{Randolph}~t

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 13:46:08 pm CST
time to begin...

ruby~{Randolph}~t 13:46:30 pm CST
poises writing stick nib to finely milled rence parchment - listens intently

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:46:32 pm CST
sits back relaxing

meral{Bretval} 13:46:53 pm CST
~turns her attention to my Master....sapphires lifting~

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 13:48:02 pm CST
Chapter Sixteen

Strangely, this cave seems to be prepared for visitors; there is tinder and flint all ready to be used, and torches to light with them, and there are some amazing carvings, including a crude depiction of a man riding a horse - an animal utterly unknown on Gor (Ivar accepts it calmly as a mythical beast from some saga he does not know). There is also much writing here, but of course Tarl is not familiar with the Torvaldsland runic alphabet, and Ivar is almost annoyed at the mere suggestion that he might be literate. (They have people to do that for you.) Actually, Tarl knows that Ivar is more lettered than he lets on, but it seems likely that he is still telling the truth about his inability to read these particular runes - except for one that he points out, which Tarl guesses must be the name-sign of Torvald himself.

Tarl’s reaction, when this penny drops, is a mixture of awe and sorrow. He at last guesses that Ivar has deliberately come here to seek the aid of the very founder of Torvaldsland - as a desperate man might resolve to beat Drake’s drum - and he knows, of course, that such a man must be long ages dead, if ever he existed. He tries to convince the Forkbeard that there is no Torvald, but he cannot dissuade his friend from entering Torvald’s chamber, where disappointment and black despair inevitably await.

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:50:14 pm CST
A sort of religion really for the Forkbeard

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:52:15 pm CST
certainly superstition but often the two can be fused together

ruby~{Randolph}~t 13:52:30 pm CST
indeed my Jarl..the rune hieroglyphics were interesting ...all legends seem to have an element of truth

it might be added..most slave girls are kept illiterate too

meral{Bretval} 13:53:50 pm CST
from stories handed down from past generations

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 13:54:11 pm CST
Perhaps, Randolph... but more likely a change in symbols over time.../ a very long time... but Wwe all know that languages and sympols chave over the centuries

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:54:13 pm CST
as an observation - ruby seems quite bright for an illiterate slave

ruby~{Randolph}~t 13:55:02 pm CST
Forkbeard and Tarl - realize they are alone to fight the Kurii

ruby~{Randolph}~t 13:55:36 pm CST
kisses my Jarl is His gifted praise..smiling

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:56:11 pm CST
yes, but for now they are safe - as long as they stay where they are.

ruby~{Randolph}~t 13:57:11 pm CST
as mea indicted last week..They cant stay in the snow cave forever

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 13:57:40 pm CST
*LOL*n what is the chance of that, Randolph given Wwe are talking about Forkbeard and Tarl

meral{Bretval} 13:58:11 pm CST
The Kurii would find some way of getting into the cave

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 13:59:30 pm CST
But, even in his despair, Ivar does not lose his wits, and nor does Tarl. They observe that the chamber is laid out not as a tomb - and there are no remains here - but as a bedroom, and Ivar poses the fair question as to why Torvald would have had a vacant sleeping chamber built. “That men might come to the Torvaldsberg to waken him,” Tarl reasons; and on seeing a war arrow in the chamber, such as might be sent to the men of Torvaldsland to summon them to war, he reasons a stage further: that the riddle of the empty chamber is that it is not Torvald, but those who come to the chamber, who will be awakened. Or, to paraphrase Marcus Aurelius:

“Waste no more time searching for a legendary hero. Be one.”

Ivar Forkbeard absorbs the lesson at once, and, taking weapons from the sleeping chamber, he and Tarl go grimly to deal with the two Kurii foolish enough to hunt them.

ruby~{Randolph}~t 13:59:53 pm CST
thinks the Kurii would have to wait for a thaw mea...a Kur can not grip the handles wedged in the ice

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:00:08 pm CST
Do we know the story of Torvald, other than he founded the whole area?

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:02:14 pm CST
A very good quote, worthy of being a motto

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 14:02:51 pm CST
Not by Me, Randolph... but it may be known yet...

meral{Bretval} 14:02:51 pm CST
~nods.....agreeing with Jarl~

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:03:41 pm CST
my Jarl
isnt Torvaldberg..known as the God of Odin?..

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 14:03:45 pm CST
Indeed a motto to live by

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:03:41 pm CST
my Jarl
isnt Torvaldberg..known as the God of Odin?..

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:05:25 pm CST
as being the god Odin??

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:06:41 pm CST
yes
thought so my Jarl..perhaps ruby is way off kilter..dont the Northerns pray to Odin?

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:07:37 pm CST
yes, they do, Odin is a god - whether that is another name for Torvald I don't know

meral{Bretval} 14:07:59 pm CST
The Viking God?

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:08:30 pm CST
yes my Jarl

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:10:22 pm CST
yes, he is a Viking god, known a Woden by old Saxons (and Wednesday named after him)

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 14:10:54 pm CST
Indeed they do, ruby... but in this case I believe the Torvaldberg is more a name for a cliff or some landmark

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:12:26 pm CST
Tor means hill or mountain in Viking/Norse

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:13:40 pm CST
nods
thought Torvaldberg is a landmark, named for the Person of the legend...guarding the War Arrow

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:14:44 pm CST
Hmmm, berg means town/settlement
vald means plain or open space

so a town on the plain near the mountain (suggestion, don't actually know)

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 14:15:03 pm CST
That is a distinct possibility ruby

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 14:17:28 pm CST
and speaking of the War Arrow.../.

From among the weapons at the foot of the couch, from one of the cylindrical quivers, still of the sort carried in Torvaldsland, I drew forth a long, dark arrow. It was more than a yard long. Its shaft was almost an inch thick with iron, barbed. Its feathers were five inches long, set in the shaft on three sides, feathers of the black-tipped coasting gull, a broad-winged bird, with black tips on its wings and tail feathers, similar to the Vosk gull. I lifted the arrow. “What is this?” I asked the Forkbeard. “It is a war arrow,” he said.
“And what sign is this, carved on its side?‟ I asked. “The sign of Torvald,” he whispered. “Why do you think this arrow is in this place?” I asked. “That men might find it?” he asked.
“I think so,” I said.

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:19:40 pm CST
sounds like a good arrow for sinking deep into a Kuril

meral{Bretval} 14:20:40 pm CST
just what mea was thinking Jarl

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 14:21:18 pm CST
I agree, Randolph

meral{Bretval} 14:21:26 pm CST
the arrow will even up the fight

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:21:45 pm CST
looks at mea, thinks she has viking blood in her

meral{Bretval} 14:22:24 pm CST
maybe a little bit Jarl

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:22:40 pm CST
the War Arrow is taken to every village, to bump with the Mens weapons..to bind the Men in war...and get together as a formidable unit..correct??

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:22:47 pm CST
they need 2 arrows - aren't there two kurii awaiting them?

meral{Bretval} 14:24:22 pm CST
from one of the cylindrical quivers......are there more war arrows?

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:24:24 pm CST
so not to be used as a weapon ruby?

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 14:24:55 pm CST
And as it is JN's norm Wwe now skip ahead a couple of days... I assume the 2 Kurri met an untimely end... at least for them*grin* happy for Tarl and Forkbeard

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:25:08 pm CST
probably need an extra strong bow to shoot them too

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:25:54 pm CST
no my Jarl..didnt think so...however what does a mere slut know about war?

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:27:07 pm CST
well, we will see ruby - the mere slut is often correct.

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 14:27:22 pm CST
sitting back... go on, ruby

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:27:54 pm CST
a girl is done Master Bretval

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:29:10 pm CST
has ruby read that in one of the other books?




Re: Gorean Reading Society: 06-February-2018
Post by ruby~{Randolph}~t on Feb 6th, 2018, 4:54pm

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 14:30:39 pm CST
Are you really? I had not noticed, ruby

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:30:57 pm CST
not certain my Jarl..sometimes the books are threaded together..hard to distinguish ..which is which

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:31:00 pm CST
sits back awaiting Bretval

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 14:33:45 pm CST
Chapter Seventeen

A few days later the whole host of Torvaldsland has been summoned by the rite of the arrow, and they lie in wait above the encampment of the Kurii as dawn approaches. Tarl is moved to philosophise on comparing the men in his vicinity, and the business they must do in the next few hours, with the people of Earth he is familiar with, and their petty commercial concerns on their crowded, polluted planet. For what it is worth to know this, on this occasion even thralls, the male slaves of Torvaldsland, are permitted to be armed and to fight, and the thrall Tarsk is among them. He it was who slew the Kur in the camp of Ivar Forkbeard, although even with this service to his credit he was obliged to beg mercy from Ivar for handling a weapon without leave. This the Forkbeard readily gave, no doubt impressed by the young man’s courage.

Despite the numbers of assembled Torvaldslanders, Tarl wonders how they, physically far weaker than Kurii and with smaller, feebler weapons, can hope to stand up to them. Even the gigantic Rollo, and a similarly large stranger called Hrolf, are nowhere near as huge and strong as a Kur. True, their plans are well laid, and even include some undertaking involving the bondmaids, now penned in Kurii corrals awaiting their eventual fate as food, but no matter how Tarl reckons the matter, he still cannot see how the Torvaldslanders can win. But he has left one thing out of his accounting. In common with the Vikings of our own world, at least as far as legend has it, the Torvaldslanders have the ability to drive themselves into berserkergang, “the frenzy of Odin”, and as the sun rises, the horde of Torvaldsland transforms itself into a howling mob, indifferent to fear, fatigue and pain, and breaks on the unsuspecting Kurii like a thunderclap.

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:37:17 pm CST
We have already seen earlier Rollo acting in a very berserk manner - if all act that way then perhaps they do have a chance.

meral{Bretval} 14:38:35 pm CST
and the art of surprise Jarl is always a good thing

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:39:26 pm CST
I like the expression "frenzy of Odin"

meral{Bretval} 14:39:45 pm CST
the arming of thralls in certain situations mea did not know about

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:39:48 pm CST
agrees mea

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:40:24 pm CST
maybe because they are desperate, mea

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:40:30 pm CST
the frenzy of Odin in Their blood was most frightening...One Man even clawing His own eye out..in a fury to fight

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:41:57 pm CST
it does sound as if they are very frightening, even to the Kurii

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:42:35 pm CST
a thrall granted the use of weapons, hold their heads as high as the Free

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 14:44:43 pm CST
Granted Randolph and it was truly known on Earth in the Viking days... but I was also drawn to this section...

"Tarl is moved to philosophise on comparing the men in his vicinity, and the business they must do in the next few hours, with the people of Earth he is familiar with, and their petty commercial concerns on their crowded, polluted planet."

As I see it Gor does not have the pollution etc. simply because of the Priest-Kings and their control over the planet

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:48:05 pm CST
Interesting passage, Bretval

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 14:56:32 pm CST
Consider that the Kurrii haven advanced weapons in addition to their size... the only chance the Torvalslanders have is because of the berserker trait... would the other lands of Gor stand a chance against the Kurrii?

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:57:33 pm CST
probably not, but Northerners are strong minded and can be fierce.

meral{Bretval} 14:58:11 pm CST
mea doesn't think They would my Master

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:01:07 pm CST
what are the kurii weapons, I have only seen them use brute force so far? Although with their size that is usually enough.

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 15:01:20 pm CST
Indeed... and that and the berserker trait is the only thing that gives them any chance against hundreds of Kurrii

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 15:04:32 pm CST
they have a 'phaser-like' weapon as I recall... and other pellet guns... none of which are available to the Men of Gor

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:05:32 pm CST
a sort of shot gun, I suppose

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 15:06:26 pm CST
but those long distance weapons will not be a factor in the battle about to come

ruby~{Randolph}~t 15:06:43 pm CST
the Blue Flame of death is the most advanced weapon..held by the Priest Kings only

sura{Austin} 15:07:06 pm CST
-slips in quietly and swiftly settles over furs-

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 15:11:40 pm CST
the Kurrii are from an technologically advanced planed and live in space, ruby... I am confident they have something similar to the Blue Flame of death...

ruby~{Randolph}~t 15:13:56 pm CST
bows her head humbly...perhaps Master Bretval

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 15:13:58 pm CST
at any rate it is late and time to wrap up the session...
I thank all that attended and My thanks to ruby for scribing

sura{Austin} 15:14:43 pm CST
Oops ...she is too late ... -sighs-

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:15:12 pm CST
Thank you Bretval for a very interesting session

kisses the scribe

waves to mea good to hear her comments

also waves to sura

meral{Bretval} 15:15:15 pm CST
Thank You my Master for leading GRS.....kiss

thank you ruby for scribing....hugs

Thanks Jarl for His insightful comments once more

ruby~{Randolph}~t 15:15:22 pm CST
a girl thanks Master Bretval for leading

Bretval {meral}: Scholar~ Warrior~Merchant 15:15:23 pm CST
greetings sura... sorry Wwe are just finishing up

sura{Austin} 15:16:01 pm CST
THank you Master Bretval
hugs ruby
This one will be more punctual next time -chuckles-

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:16:21 pm CST
greetings sura - we began at 1:30 pm GS time

ruby~{Randolph}~t 15:16:59 pm CST
rolls up the scroll, tucking it under her breast..as always, a privilege to serve my Jarls Home