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xx Forum 03/19/2017.
« Thread started on: Mar 22nd, 2017, 9:37pm »

Present:

Sandman
Zoran
Rollo the Ax
Dak
Hunter
Austin

Sissy

larissa
kainda
natasha
ruby
ayrie
peanut
mirren
flicka

Zoran ~Captain~ Merchant 19:37:49 pm CDT

Ok all let us start
When you have a question
Whisper it to me
But first I have question I want to ask
And I want all to be honest with there words

flicka {GS}~ fg. 19:39:14 pm CDT
~adjusting her silks and ink and parchment, attending to Master Zoran.~

ruby~{Randolph}~t 19:39:18 pm CDT

dark eyes full of sin lift to Master Zoran - listening

karinda {GS} 19:39:22 pm CDT
Watches as all the slaves move to their Masters...Shivers as she kneels way on the other side...alone

Zoran ~Captain~ Merchant 19:40:22 pm CDT
I been told that there is unrest with the council and how we make decions.
It was also said we allow untruth in are home to flourish.
I want to know how all fill.

ruby~{Randolph}~t 19:41:30 pm CDT
your not alone karinda...girl kneels on the slave furs too

ayrie{Thadron} 19:41:35 pm CDT
~hugs karinda before turning her attention to Master Zoran, not picturing Any.... blades....

karinda {GS} 19:42:57 pm CDT
Hugs ruby...oh good...though kar was alone

Zoran ~Captain~ Merchant 19:45:12 pm CDT

Looks around
I promise you no harm will come to anyone who speaks there mine
You have my word and my sword

flicka {GS}~ fg. 19:46:36 pm CDT
Master Zoran, how the Council make Their decisions is not within the province of this girls approval or disapproval. The Captains make Their decisions as strong and worthy Men of our home and as They see fit.

As to allowing lies to percolate whenever there are groups of people there will be lies, misunderstandings, deceptions.

All each of us can do is always remain true to ourselves, flicka abhors cheating and lying, loathes disloyalty and betrayal of trust. And the day that flicka stoops so low is the day that she will no longer remain a part of this home, for her shame would be too great to remain.

Zoran ~Captain~ Merchant 19:49:07 pm CDT
Thank you flika
We allow masters to be Masters with in the laws of are home

karinda {GS} 19:49:25 pm CDT

Looks down to the floor....remembering her banning...closes her eyes to choke back the anguish she did to her own self. Remains hushed

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 19:49:26 pm CDT

we have occasionally had folks under anon names spouting poison.. I usually put them on ignore and tell others to do so

Zoran ~Captain~ Merchant 19:50:25 pm CDT
I Will not Micromanage GS
If you have issue take to the person
In private
We are all adults here

Austin - Scholar- 19:52:05 pm CDT

I personally believe that the council makes decision for what is best for Oour home. It is not an easy job and often you can't please everyone. We all have to look at the big picture not our micro picture. I would think if Oone has concerns, He or she should address their concerns privately to a Captain and not spread innuendo publicly.

Zoran ~Captain~ Merchant 19:52:09 pm CDT
But karinda you did you punishment and did not break it
You serve you time and should be forgiven
We have very short lives and to hold a grudge is very wrong

flicka {GS}~ fg. 19:52:11 pm CDT

~softly~ karinda we all make mistakes, you accepted the punishment of the Captains, and as such it is now behind you. For flicka you have a fresh page upon which to write, how you write upon it is your choice and for flicka the past is over.

~sending you a gentle hug~

Zoran ~Captain~ Merchant 19:52:49 pm CDT

I agree Austin
Mom said you were the smart one laughs

ruby~{Randolph}~t 19:53:05 pm CDT
this one tries not to judge...if one judges, then they are opened to be judged themselves

the Captains are busy Men...taking the time to get protocals right the first time

ayrie{Thadron} 19:53:12 pm CDT
one can only think that the one who suggested the topic might need to talk with The Council as this one does not feel that way in the least . much less it being her place to cast judgement.

flicka {GS}~ fg. 19:54:01 pm CDT
Master Sandman, the words of anonymous persons are to be treated with as little regard as pond scum, to be ignored if possible and at worse scraped off with disdain.

ruby~{Randolph}~t 19:54:11 pm CDT

true Master Zoran
life is short...every day is a gift to be cherished

Dak 19:54:50 pm CDT

don't feel bad karinda, I've been banned twice from GS, and both times were over lies, *s*

Austin - Scholar- 19:55:16 pm CDT
Chuckles.. Zoran only once in a while..

flicka {GS}~ fg. 19:55:31 pm CDT

~smiling as Jarl Hunter strides in. hiding her extra smile at the thought of ahem bottoms.~

Austin - Scholar- 19:56:29 pm CDT

NOds in agreement with flicka

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 19:57:09 pm CDT

bottoms up...grins at flicka....its what we sometimes say when consuming ale

flicka {GS}~ fg. 19:57:32 pm CDT

~smiles at ruby~ indeed life is too short to dwell upon unhappiness.

Zoran ~Captain~ Merchant 19:57:59 pm CDT

Well
Does anyone have anything to
Add or we shall move on

Austin - Scholar- 19:58:27 pm CDT
Chuckles.. and nods at life is short.. my time line is very short.. looking around at all the young and beautiful

ayrie{Thadron} 19:58:58 pm CDT

~gentle fingers reaching out in interlace with ruby's
life is too short, indeed

flicka {GS}~ fg. 19:59:30 pm CDT
~whispers~ Master Austin, it is only the illusion of the Serum that makes flicka appear young and beautiful.

ayrie{Thadron} 19:59:43 pm CDT
Nothing from this one, Thank You Master Zoran

ruby~{Randolph}~t 19:59:46 pm CDT
indeed mistress

dont sweat the small stuff

Zoran ~Captain~ Merchant 19:59:59 pm CDT
Does anyone have another question please
Whisper it to me

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:01:04 pm CDT
I missed the first question...lol...trying to read back

ayrie{Thadron} 20:02:40 pm CDT
Zoran ~Captain~ Merchant 19:40:22 pm CDT
I been told that there is unrest with the council and how we make decions.
It was also said we allow untruth in are home to flourish.
I want to know how all fill.

Austin - Scholar- 20:03:13 pm CDT
Chuckles talking about time lines.. flicka why do you think I am spending so many hours in my lab.. its called youth serum.. pretty good at the aromatic solutions.. but not so successful on the youth movement as of yet

ayrie{Thadron} 20:04:37 pm CDT
she was hoping to capture the question before it disappeared from her lil screen

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:04:43 pm CDT
No idea what the statement refers to with regard to any topicf I dont see what life being short or long has to do with anything ...or is that just a conveneient way to never stand for anything?

Well I dont see Tarl Cabot ever putting his feet up because he might not live to see change.

Zoran ~Captain~ Merchant 20:05:50 pm CDT
Please explain Hunter

flicka {GS}~ fg. 20:06:56 pm CDT
Jarl Hunter, as always the discussion segued to life being short from the original input to the question.

LionHeart of Old 20:07:48 pm CDT
~reads back as enters and sits~

I have felt from some attacks made on Me that there are those who feel they SHOULD be on the Council, but are not and while speaking as if loyal to this place are not so -- but again how does one fight anons and two-faced ones

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:09:03 pm CDT

LH-- anon's get ignored,, if they are too ashamed to show their true faces they have no voice here

Zoran ~Captain~ Merchant 20:09:37 pm CDT
LH we have not seen eye to eye before but we always say it to each other's faces

Sissy 20:10:28 pm CDT
Trying to fight those is a waste of time and breath LH and those who start gossip and spread rumors about GS are just jealous of the members

LionHeart of Old 20:10:54 pm CDT
Indeed as it should be -- but they do so often sew seeds of doubt and distrust in many folk -- 1/2 truths are dangerous --

My own home (jag) had this issue about 3 years back -- better now but it will crop up there again I am sure

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:11:41 pm CDT
nothing to explain Zoran...but if it helps I was suggesting that while its true life is short.....all things happen or don't happen regardless and we can either be blaise or proactive out on how it affects us as individuals

but I think many times the life is too short for this or that is not a helpful attitude

LionHeart of Old 20:12:14 pm CDT

I know Zoran -- I have no issues with You or such as You -- I have My suspicions who the anons are, but with no proof I keep My piece --

flicka {GS}~ fg. 20:12:33 pm CDT
A girl thinks that you can be loyal and yet still have disparate views. It is how they are presented that is important, in forum discussion and even active debate is encouraged.

Even by slaves. And even Free Men and Women are expected to show respect in the putting forward of Their views.

~smiling at Master Sandman.~ pond scum.

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:12:37 pm CDT
I have been involved with chat rooms for over 15 years,, everyone has had its share of bosk dung stirrers

Sissy 20:13:44 pm CDT
And what should we do Hunter? Fight and argue with the anon and bring ourselves down to their level..I think not

Zoran ~Captain~ Merchant 20:13:59 pm CDT
Hunter well then think of it this way. I will give all the same hand as it is not for me to judge who should be less

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:14:02 pm CDT

not meant to be an out after proactive scribe...smiles

LionHeart of Old 20:15:32 pm CDT
No question about that Sandman

Cowards abound -- and often hide behind cloaks of "honor", sadly -- whereas nothing they accuse others of is close to the dishonor they do being an anon


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Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:16:56 pm CDT
I wasnt speaking of anons...just in general

having said that just because something is anon doesnt give it no weight...sometimes its right ...though often not

I dont like that way of voicing ideas Myself ...but its what folks do at times

Zoran ~Captain~ Merchant 20:17:23 pm CDT
We will always have disagreement
It is life

LionHeart of Old 20:17:41 pm CDT

The worst thing about anon is the guessing it causes One to do

Being suspicious of Others that in fact are innocent --- THAT makes them as flicka says LOWER than POND SCUM ~chuckles at the girls coined phrase~

flicka {GS}~ fg. 20:17:48 pm CDT
~reading back~ ooops Master Sandman You are not pond scum. ~chuckling~

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:19:03 pm CDT

I certainly wouldnt fight or argue with an anon Sissy....but I might have My mind changed by what is said..its possible

Austin - Scholar- 20:20:42 pm CDT
Chuckles.. Is pond scum lower than Whale poo??

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:20:43 pm CDT
yes LH exactly ..it sows the seeds of suspicion and mistrust...thats the problem more than what is said in many cases

LionHeart of Old 20:21:23 pm CDT

I do get what you mean Hunter -- sometimes anons can be like a canary in a coal mine, but that the same time they speak in such a way that has no honor which does call their points into question. It is easy to complain about A/another when you as an anon have NO HISTORY to deal with. Those of us Who have to LIVE with our history good and bad have honor in that -- where anons snipe with their own vantage points unknown

Sissy 20:21:59 pm CDT
Its possible Hunter but do you believe everything you hear or read? In life you have to take everything with a grain of salt til you find the truth yourself

flicka {GS}~ fg. 20:23:49 pm CDT
~trying to keep a straight face~ You know Master Austin, flicka has never thought of whales pooing. Oh my, their excrement must be voluminous, kind of takes away some of the serenity of their songs doesn't it. Not quite as ethereal when you think of them pooing while they sing.
LionHeart of Old 20:26:31 pm CDT
~not able to resist~

But perhaps, flicka with their size they "just don't give a shit" lol

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:27:24 pm CDT

Yes its hard to seperate word from behaviour...and that is what honor is ...behaving a certain way ....within a framework of ethics and morality

but I hesitate to make absolutes....there would be examples in history of anonymity not being a signifier of dishonor....so we must take every case in iolation

flicka {GS}~ fg. 20:28:22 pm CDT
So Master LionHeart You think that they may be akin to fairies? In that they do not pollute the earth or in their case the water with base bodily functions like farting or pooing?

And yes a girl did understand your meaning, but like You just could not resist.

Sissy 20:28:46 pm CDT

Rubbing my temples wondering how to get the thought of whale shit outta my head

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:30:05 pm CDT

I've hear them whales sing....the words are bullwhaleshite flicka....LOL..

Sissy 20:30:30 pm CDT

You take the time Hunter..I personally don't have time for anons who bitch and whine

flicka {GS}~ fg. 20:32:03 pm CDT
Jarl Hunter, a girl does think that both You and Master LionHeart do have a point that anons can be a little like a canary in a coal mine, or a barometre of pressure, but still a girl would be loathe to place anything more than a minute modicum of credence upon their words. Online it is so easy to hide.

Zoran ~Captain~ Merchant 20:32:40 pm CDT
I sorry all
But I must leave be well all
No Sandman will take over

ruby~{Randolph}~t 20:33:14 pm CDT

mistress flicka
do you speak of the Hunjer whale shark?...their teeth are well known for good luck...makes a notation to scour the Thassa beaches

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:33:37 pm CDT
waving to my Brother rest well

flicka {GS}~ fg. 20:34:22 pm CDT

Mistress Sissy perhaps if You think of talender flowers it will take Your mind off whale poo.

Sissy 20:35:24 pm CDT
perhaps flicka

LionHeart of Old 20:37:01 pm CDT

~chokes~

A FW thinking of talenders is like a virgin thinking of orgies LOL

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:37:17 pm CDT
My canaries got circles under his eyes flicka....grins

yes I agree with you...do not think I am giving respect to the practice

Sissy 20:38:47 pm CDT
a virgin in an orgy is a hell of a thought

flicka {GS}~ fg. 20:38:58 pm CDT

ruby, hmm the Hunjer whale shark would have formidable poo. A girl was thinking of the blue whale of earth however.

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:40:48 pm CDT

a virgin could have a whale of a time at an orgy

LionHeart of Old 20:41:05 pm CDT

Is there perhaps a better topic than anons and whale shit S/someone could whisper Sandman?

flicka {GS}~ fg. 20:42:23 pm CDT
~firmly tongue in cheek~

ruby would you be hunting the shores of the Thassa for washed up teeth or for fertilizer for the Piazza garden?

Sissy 20:42:33 pm CDT
Aye is there another topic I'm eating up my data on whale shit

Rollo the Ax 20:43:39 pm CDT

A hell of a thought, yes Sissy ... but what a way to * convert * the virgin .......

peanut {Lita~HLH} 20:43:50 pm CDT
looks to mistress, be a helava chore wouldn't it?

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:44:04 pm CDT
waiting for any new-- non-whaleshit topics

ruby~{Randolph}~t 20:44:58 pm CDT

mistress
girl is going to scour the shores for Hunjer whale skark teeth, if my Jarl gifts her the outing...good luck is nothing to shun

LionHeart of Old 20:45:20 pm CDT
Might be a better conversion for a Male virgin than a female lol

Sissy 20:45:20 pm CDT
Aye Rollo...smiling beneath my veil

karinda {GS} 20:46:42 pm CDT
Awaits the next topic...

Rollo the Ax 20:48:26 pm CDT
LOL ... I guess that it depends on your own definition of * better * LH ...... LOL .....

Rollo the Ax 20:50:04 pm CDT
Is there another topic ?? or perhaps the question is better put, is there a Captain or Council member here to * take over * ??

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 20:50:06 pm CDT
ok I have another topic:

Were the Gor books written as more a reaction against feminism or political correctness in general

Dak 20:52:35 pm CDT
had to be feminism, there was no political correctness back then, *s*

LionHeart of Old 20:53:38 pm CDT
Hell PC had been around since the first election lol

ruby~{Randolph}~t 20:54:42 pm CDT
Master Sandman

thinks both...feminism and political correctness in general, go had in hand

karinda {GS} 20:55:30 pm CDT
Merely listens

LionHeart of Old 20:56:41 pm CDT
I would tend to say feminism to be honest (and I mean in its more radical forms) --- but also against anything in society which makes people deny who they "are" biologically or personally

Rollo the Ax 20:58:33 pm CDT

I can not say for sure but from my way of thinking, I question either .. JN, or the rt man that he is wrote other books about sex and alternate ways as well as his Gor books.... I would say perhaps just another SciFi/sword and sorcery style .....

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 20:59:29 pm CDT
He wrote them for several reasons....the initial one was because he is a writer and a fan of science fiction...not because he was a philosopher and had grand designs....in fact he would have been well aware that fiction is hardly the way to make a statement..its entertainment when all said and done..the second is because the first books were popular he kept going because it made him money and because he enjoyed it.
Also at the time some of the sentiments that are part of the narrative were being popularised by Robert Heinlein as well...on a much larger readership in fact

flicka {GS}~ fg. 21:00:43 pm CDT

flicka is not sure.

He may have been writing for a more deep agenda, in that he was flying in the face of growing feminism but also his books had a large target audience of young men, in a sense the pornography of their day. What is interesting that so many women also embraced what he was writing.

To flicka's mind that is more to the point, that we as women seek strong men and seek to be dominated by them.

Rollo the Ax 21:01:54 pm CDT
Dak huh * no pc back then * ?? maybe they didn't call it pc, but what the hell would you call all the anti war protesters ?? I read my first Gor book in country ... and the protesters where a lot more in OUR minds than some bra burners ........

ruby~{Randolph}~t 21:02:08 pm CDT
Jarl Rollo
do You speak of "Imaginative Sex".. by John Norman?.. chuckles

LionHeart of Old 21:04:01 pm CDT
Nothing to the point of the topic Hunter, but this I disagree with strongly

"would have been well aware that fiction is hardly the way to make a statement"

Fiction had historically been used for making most points -- especially philospically IF wish to reach a larger audience than academics

Rollo the Ax 21:04:40 pm CDT
Yes, ruby.... but he had several others as well..... he wrote on other topic as well ....

flicka {GS}~ fg. 21:05:13 pm CDT
flicka agrees with you Jarl Hunter, he was foremost a science fiction writer, a girl is trying to recall a book from way back then about alternate sexuality, someone's Freehold. And you also Master Rollo, a gril agrees, the original books were sword and sorcery with a liberal dose of sex. ~laughing~

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Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 21:06:01 pm CDT
its the readers that bring their own interpretations

its difficult to understand how the thinking was back then...the world has changed so much in attitudes...and we can really only think in the now...but science fiction was a good market and they all had a bit of homespun philosophy thrown in that was a response to the times they lived in..just as music did with people like Dylan for example....

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:06:18 pm CDT

hmmm I had no idea he wrote any books other than the Gor books

Dak 21:07:06 pm CDT
well, in My mind I would not consider either of those Pc, but I don't make the rules, *laughing* protesters are just that, Protesters !

LionHeart of Old 21:07:34 pm CDT

He wrote in the genre and tradition of Edgar Rice Burroughs --- and Burroughs was in My mind without question trying to create in the Tarzan series as post-darwin philosophy of the nature of humanity

Rollo the Ax 21:09:42 pm CDT
In all honesty, both Hunter and LoinHeart ..... * I * feel that both concepts have merit ..... fiction is and was often used to offer * differing * points of view and offer possible answers or ideas .... by being in fiction form, those offering the ideas could do so without receiving negative comments from the academics of the time .....

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 21:11:04 pm CDT
point taken....Lionheart...I should have said academic statement....remember he is an academic first

lets change it to if he really had grand a new society as his main goal he would have written papers...or started a church..not paperbacks ....yes fiction has influence of course...but his ideals arent new anyway

LionHeart of Old 21:11:20 pm CDT

"Imaginative Sex" is an interesting book, but not seen a copy in years

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:12:35 pm CDT

nodding Robert Heinlein's good startship troopers-- the enemy was an ant like communism of alien bugs that couldn't be reasoned with only killed.. and his concept that only people who served in the military had earned the right to be citizens and the right to vote

LionHeart of Old 21:12:53 pm CDT
Ah Hunter, but as serious an author at the founder of existentialism (Kierkegarrd) wrote fictional works to draw IN an audience

flicka {GS}~ fg. 21:13:18 pm CDT

~listening to Jarl Hunter~ Hmm L Ron Hubbard started a church, and he was initially a science fiction writer. Scientology is certainly still around.

Rollo the Ax 21:14:52 pm CDT

Yes, the style is much like ERB ... he not only wrote the Tarzan series as such, but also the Conan, John Carter of Mars ( Barsoom ) , and the Venus series where the hero was always the super strong swords wielding no nonsense sex guy ......

ruby~{Randolph}~t 21:16:15 pm CDT

Imaginative Sex..can be purchased on e-reads...for $4.49..a bargin....a worthwhile read

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:18:09 pm CDT
folks any more comments?

flicka {GS}~ fg. 21:18:37 pm CDT
No Master Sandman.

karinda {GS} 21:18:51 pm CDT
Nods she has nothing to add at this time

karinda {GS} 21:19:14 pm CDT
Giggles and shakes her head no...shesh

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 21:19:17 pm CDT
will you read it to Me ruby...grins

ruby~{Randolph}~t 21:19:29 pm CDT
Master Sandman
nothing from this lowly beast

Rollo the Ax 21:20:12 pm CDT
Aye, brother Sandman .... Heinlein did offer a VERY valid concept in the book .. service is required for citizenship ..... but I feel that he carried on from the old Roman system .... all male citizens were required to provide military service if needed in the Republic .....

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 21:20:51 pm CDT

we could talk till the bosk come home...but no

ruby~{Randolph}~t 21:21:20 pm CDT

winks and chuckles to Jarl Hunter
know You a very long time, perhaps 15 years....and never before have You requested a bedtime story..blush

peanut {Lita~HLH} 21:24:26 pm CDT
smiles brightly at the comment....then giggled

LionHeart of Old 21:25:54 pm CDT

Damn unfed urts

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 21:25:57 pm CDT

Thanks to those leading and the scribe

OriginalSandman_Builder/ Sr. Captain of GS 21:26:38 pm CDT

darn House Daemon

flicka {GS}~ fg. 21:27:49 pm CDT
Thank You Master Sandman for taking over from Master Zoran. ~warm hug~

ruby~{Randolph}~t 21:28:54 pm CDT

thank You Master Sandman and Master Zoran fir twin leading

mistress flicka for scribing

karinda {GS} 21:30:05 pm CDT
Thank you Master Sandman and Naster Zoran for leading

Smiles at mistress...thank You for scribing

Jarl Hunter {aura - mirren} 21:30:25 pm CDT

chuckles back to ruby....thats true I havent



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