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xx Euro-Forum notes..26-March-2017
« Thread started on: Mar 27th, 2017, 10:28am »

attending:
Jarl Keeper
Jarl Randolph - Moderator
Master Kazar
Master Bretval
Master LionHeart of Old
Mistress Sophie

rykl{Keeper}~t
meral{Bretval}
zora{Austin}
ruby{Randolph}~t - scribe

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:42:37 pm CDT
If there is a topic then whisper to me now

ruby~{Randolph}~t 13:44:43 pm CDT
poises nib to finely milled rence parchment - listens intently

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:47:32 pm CDT
OK, we will begin in a moment, no need to spell out the rules

except be kind to the scribe

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:48:14 pm CDT
I have a topic, one moment

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:48:45 pm CDT
Topic 1

In Gor, a principal requirement of a kajira is to be pleasing. What does that mean?

rykl.{Keeper}~t~ 13:50:37 pm CDT
-thinks about the topic for a moment as she finds it most interesting-

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:50:54 pm CDT
Hmm, perhaps different meanings/requirements from a Master or slave

ruby~{Randolph}~t 13:52:21 pm CDT
oh such a broad topic...to cause the Free comfort and serve Their every whim...to remember their status as slave in everything they do

*Sophie* 13:52:46 pm CDT
to a FW a slave is pleasing if she is kind, giving not....mmm...snappy to Me?...chuckles

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:53:08 pm CDT
From a Master's viewpoint it all begins with the first greeting/meeting how the girl presents herself, her demeanour, one of politeness

Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 13:53:21 pm CDT
The two words that immediately come to My mind are;
satisfying and appealing.

To appeal My senses, all of them, to appeal to My mind and body.

To satisfy desires, wants and needs, ~Grinning~
All of them!

Bretval {meral}: 13:54:02 pm CDT
joyful obedience within the a the Owner restrictions

Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 13:54:13 pm CDT
That is pleasing

*Sophie* 13:54:27 pm CDT
the beauty of a slave physically can be appreciated even by a FW....as One might enjoy a beautiful painting?

Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 13:55:16 pm CDT
~Nodding to Sophie~
A beautiful slave is always appealing and pleasing

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:55:57 pm CDT
all of the senses can be pleased even by a restricted slave if her attitude and whole approach is correct. That is where the slave training comes in

meral{Bretval} 13:56:00 pm CDT
if a girl is happy within it always shines outwards

*Sophie* 13:56:28 pm CDT
a little playful humour....within limits ....that makes the girls eyes sparkle is also pleasing to this One...soft smiles

*Sophie* 13:56:45 pm CDT

well said meral...*winks* to the beauty

Bretval {meral}: 13:57:02 pm CDT
well said Randolph

meral{Bretval} 13:57:10 pm CDT
not only the training Jarl, a girl needs a true slave heart

ruby~{Randolph}~t 13:57:54 pm CDT
nods to Jarl Keeper

if a girl thinks she has given her all...she must dig deeper into her soul to give more, without expecting accolades

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:58:22 pm CDT
Agrees with Sophie, a little teasing, cheekiness even if done in a playful and friendly manner - without a double meaning

Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 13:59:00 pm CDT
That is true Randolph.
There are so many ways for a slave to be pleasing, all of the senses can be involved, not just sight and touch.

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:59:49 pm CDT
yes, a slave heart is key. Without it I don't believe girl can either be a good slave of enjoy it here.

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:00:42 pm CDT
true mea..imho a true slave heart is something one is born with

rykl.{Keeper}~t~ 14:00:47 pm CDT
It has always been a goal to be pleasing to any free this girl is in the company of, be that Master/Jarl or Mistress
ry has set that barometer as being ... Is she enhancing the time of the person she is with? Is she making them smile/happy they are there? And it can be done in many ways...through her beauty, through her listening, through her conversation...

meral{Bretval} 14:00:51 pm CDT
nods agreeing with everything said so far

*Sophie* 14:01:01 pm CDT
I would make a miserable slave and fed to the sleens in a heart beat...chuckles

Bretval {meral}: 14:02:46 pm CDT

*LOL* I will keep that in mind, Sophie

meral{Bretval} 14:03:13 pm CDT
in the same way Mistress Sophie, mea would make a terrible FW.......Wwe have to be true to Oour hearts and Wwho Wwe are

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:03:44 pm CDT
agrees with mea, W/w all seem to see this the same way

Although not so sure I agree with Sophie - I do remember her serving me ale once - yes, OK, maybe I do agree with her - lol

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:03:54 pm CDT
and to deemed a "princess"... is a shattering thought

there are times where its prudent to refresh a slaves status in nature...gulps a hard swallow

*Sophie* 14:04:35 pm CDT
looking for cheap sleen meat eh Bretval?...chuckles

*Sophie* 14:05:38 pm CDT
*winks* at Randolph and rattles the matchbox with the earwigs in...grinning neath veil

Bretval {meral}: 14:07:10 pm CDT
never Sophie I always pay for the best

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:08:35 pm CDT
Any other comments on this topic??

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:08:43 pm CDT
to be found a sour disappoint is just devastating...even a morsel, just fills this ones heart with grief

rykl.{Keeper}~t~ 14:08:45 pm CDT
-rejoins my Jarl kicking at the urts

meral{Bretval} 14:09:06 pm CDT
none from mea thank You Jarl

Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 14:09:36 pm CDT

~Using My size 10 boot to assist an urt in forward flight~

*Sophie* 14:09:37 pm CDT
none from Me Randolph

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:09:57 pm CDT
well, some slaves do go off the rails from time to time. It is then up to the Master to correct the issue

*Sophie* 14:10:03 pm CDT
makes a note....to knit more urt traps

rykl.{Keeper}~t~ 14:10:09 pm CDT

None from this one
Thank you for asking

Bretval {meral}: 14:10:23 pm CDT
nothing more from Me, Randolph

Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 14:11:14 pm CDT
Nothing from Me Brother

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:11:26 pm CDT
yes my Master

rubbing Your gifted lashes tenderly

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:12:17 pm CDT
Well as a summary, we all seem united on this topic. The basic requirements are: A slave heart which will engender the correct attitude in the slave so that she is naturally polite, good natured and displays a friendliness, perhaps with a little humour, cheekiness and good conversation.

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:12:50 pm CDT
That all sounds quite easy really !!!!!!!

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:13:29 pm CDT
glances at My slave with a knowing look

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:13:39 pm CDT
We have another topic

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:13:46 pm CDT
sometimes my Jarl
the easiest lessons are the hardest to learn

*Sophie* 14:14:06 pm CDT

I think the Master's enjoy a sexy beast too Randolph...chuckles

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:14:35 pm CDT
Topic 2:

We are all Gorean.

How much of being a Gorean Master or slave is innate, that is how much of what we are be it slave or Master are we born with?

That leads to the question,

How important is Mentoring for a Master
and
training for a slave?

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:14:59 pm CDT
lol, Sophie, absolutely right

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:15:51 pm CDT
Hmmm a deep one, needs to think

*Sophie* 14:16:20 pm CDT
I think We all have to learn a certain amount Randolph....but ultimately....Our personalities show through...after all...I cant do the stuffy FW who hates slaves...chuckles...and will never conform to that.....but I will deport Myself as a FW should

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:17:01 pm CDT
thinking for a slave training is imperative - to learn the rules of the Home...that said no amount of training will suddenly induce a slave heart...that comes from within

*Sophie* 14:17:40 pm CDT
that is very true ruby.....to thine own heart be true...nods

meral{Bretval} 14:18:19 pm CDT

to learn the rules and ways of GS is very important if Yyou want to live in GS mea thinks

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:19:25 pm CDT
I believe that the Master/slave within us is innate or develops very early in our life. It does need development and nurturing so that can really understand ourselves, and others. Accordingly the Mentoring/training is an important part of the learning and development process.

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:19:43 pm CDT

exactly Mistress Sophie..nods

Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 14:19:48 pm CDT
I think a large chunk of who and what I am allows Me to be a Jarl.
It it is innate.
My life experience has reinforced that.
However, one should always try to improve one's self.

A quote if I may.

"I am still learning"
Michelangelo di Buonarroti (He was 84 when He said that.)

Bretval {meral}: 14:20:06 pm CDT

training for slaves is well established... but I feel We fail in Mentoring for Masters

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xx Re: Euro-Forum notes..26-March-2017
« Reply #1 on: Mar 27th, 2017, 11:22am »

Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 14:22:19 pm CDT
Agreeing with what is being said.
The Gorean is within, but development, whether it be training or mentoring is need to make the complete Gorean.

Bretval {meral}: 14:23:02 pm CDT
as to My personal opinion of Why I am here..
it is where I am most comfortable with Myself and have given up all other sites

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:23:14 pm CDT
I agree, Bretval. In a way it harder for the Masters/FW as there is not set programme. Learning through trial and error. Also Masters can be untrainable !!!!!

*Sophie* 14:23:51 pm CDT

wry smiles...I am saying nothing Randolph!!

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:23:52 pm CDT
my Jarl
to girl...its something felt instantly

girl knew You were a strong Master on June 4, 2013... the first day met in the seedy Gorean Inn

Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 14:24:44 pm CDT
~Nodding to both Randolph and Bretval~
You are both correct!

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:25:53 pm CDT
grins at Sophie !!!!!

Bretval {meral}: 14:26:52 pm CDT
We keep running into the reach of the Free Mans reach attitude... which acts to restrict Mentoring so a large extent

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:27:16 pm CDT
in many ways the Master/slave relationship comes about through the yin/yang of the individuals. that is what I found with ruby, not knowing she was Gorean at the time.

Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 14:27:28 pm CDT
It does create a challenge Bretval!

meral{Bretval} 14:28:14 pm CDT
mea just knew her Master was the only One for her straight away, will be wherever He says she will be....smiles softly

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:28:18 pm CDT
the true key...is to have patience...in all things...Masters and kajirae both

Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 14:28:32 pm CDT
~Nodding to Randolph~
I can truly relate to the yin / yang aspect of the relationship.

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:29:50 pm CDT
"will be wherever He says she will be"... exactly sweet mea...spot on..well phrased

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:30:49 pm CDT
yes my Jarl..as Wwe have talked about often..kiss

Bretval {meral}: 14:31:53 pm CDT
If asked I am always happy to aid a new or even an experienced Master on the rules and protocols of GS ,,, such as they are

Jarl Keeper ~ Captain ~ Scholar 14:33:53 pm CDT
~Standing with rykl in My arms.~
Once again, RT calls.
With Daylight savings start here next Sunday, this will be My last Euro Forum for a while.

I thank you all.

~Looking down to rykl~
Time to say goodbye My little one.

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:35:48 pm CDT
any other comments on this topic??

rykl.{Keeper}~t~ 14:35:50 pm CDT

Thank you for allowing this girl to share these moments with Yyou Aall
Fare winds Master and Jarl
Best wishes Mistress
Serve hot sisters

meral{Bretval} 14:37:02 pm CDT
nothing from mea thank You Jarl

*Sophie* 14:37:39 pm CDT
none from Me Randolph

Bretval {meral}: 14:38:16 pm CDT

Not much more can be said, Randolph... until the Council changes their attitudes

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:38:43 pm CDT
As a summary:

We seem to agree that we are born as we are. The slave classes are invaluable and help slaves in GS. the Masters are untrainable which can give them 'learning difficulties'. !!!!!!!

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:38:54 pm CDT

agrees my Jarl... the ying/yang philosophy is interactive in a Master/slave union is vital...the interaction influences the destinies of Both

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:39:35 pm CDT

Gives a quick Tal to Kazar before presenting the next topic

*Sophie* 14:40:38 pm CDT

I work well with those with...'learning difficulties' Randolph...chuckles

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:40:57 pm CDT
Topic 3:

What is the difference between the high castes and the Priest Kings??

*Sophie* 14:41:58 pm CDT
Have never met a Priest King....has anyone seen one??

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:42:06 pm CDT
The PK's are gods, the high castes aren't

Bretval {meral}: 14:42:26 pm CDT
not 'untrainable' Randolph... 'uninformed' would be more correct

*Sophie* 14:42:43 pm CDT

exactly Randolph...nods lots

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:42:52 pm CDT

lol Sophie - Junkers perhaps !!!!!

meral{Bretval} 14:43:37 pm CDT
the Priest Kings have lots of technology They can use

*Sophie* 14:43:46 pm CDT

laughing....where do We get the magic fungi here Randolph??

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:44:13 pm CDT
yes agrees Bretval, but with some there is a reluctance to learn

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:44:14 pm CDT
the high Castes are as follows

Initiates
Scribes
Builders
Physicians
Warriors

the Priest Kings are not a Caste

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 14:44:43 pm CDT
high castes are representatives of the Priest kings ``~`one thinks

Bretval {meral}: 14:47:24 pm CDT

hmmm... P-K's are seen as gods because even the High Castes are still not told all that they could know... because the P-K like the situation as it stands

*Sophie* 14:47:43 pm CDT
My caste is physician here.....but green does not suit Me.....I wear a green sash on occasion....and I have never seen a Priest King......mumbles...not sober anyways

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:48:06 pm CDT
but only a handful of non PK's ever meet with a PK

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:48:11 pm CDT

the High Castes are privy to first knowledge..the planet Gor is round...the lower Castes believe the sphere is flat

*Sophie* 14:49:12 pm CDT
I hope Kazar knows it not be flat ruby....or else He will sail off the edge...grins

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:49:35 pm CDT
oh, well as I am not of high cast I am a member of the flat Gor society - lol

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 14:50:16 pm CDT
high castes can call upon the priests too bring their what its called the flame off death of ones who balstfmy the Priest Kings

their caSTE IS WHITE ROBES

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:50:27 pm CDT
maybe Kazar should just sail around in circles

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:51:00 pm CDT
oops..second knowledge even...to know the planet Gor is round..there is a third knowledge...known only by the Priest Kings

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 14:51:54 pm CDT
Randolph lol seems one does anyways

LionHeart of Old 14:52:10 pm CDT
Third knowledge is if I remember right basically the knowledge that earth exists

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:52:17 pm CDT
For LH. and zora

Topic 3:

What is the difference between the high castes and the priest kings??

zora{Austin} 14:53:37 pm CDT

Bows her head kneeling down as listens closely

*Sophie* 14:54:04 pm CDT
chuckles at Randolph...around and around and around He goes..where He will stop...no body knows...grins

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:54:30 pm CDT
yes Master Lionheart...true..smiles a girls welcome

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 14:54:37 pm CDT
Sophie am not a top lol

*Sophie* 14:56:30 pm CDT

grins with Kazar...then *winks*...knowing what a skilful sailor He be

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:57:13 pm CDT
any other comments on the topic??

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 14:57:42 pm CDT
Sophie one caN ALWAYS FIND A PORT TOO ENTER WINK

meral{Bretval} 14:57:51 pm CDT

none from mea thank You Jarl

Bretval {meral}: 14:57:56 pm CDT
of course it is probably a very good thing the P=K so not share all their knowledge... saves a lot of problems... ad restricts the damage Goreans could do

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:58:16 pm CDT

nothing more from Your beast my Jarl

*Sophie* 14:58:34 pm CDT

almost chokes on Her veil...chuckling with Kazar

*Sophie* 14:58:54 pm CDT
nothing from Me Randolph...dabs Her eyes...still chuckling to Self

Bretval {meral}: 14:59:30 pm CDT
nothing more from Me Randolph

LionHeart of Old 15:00:51 pm CDT
~chuckles~

Mostly one have bones the other from an engineering standpoint an impossible exoskeleton

LionHeart of Old 15:01:20 pm CDT

~rushing that in having pulled the boot out of My ass that appeared when I first tried to post it~

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:01:27 pm CDT
As a summary :

PK's are gods, high castes are not
Some High castes represent the PKs
High Castes have second knowledge; PKs have 3rd knowledge. and as gods suppose they know everything.

*Sophie* 15:01:54 pm CDT
You need medical attention for that LionHeart?...wry smiles

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:02:39 pm CDT
lol, LH. point well made, but missed the summary

LionHeart of Old 15:03:51 pm CDT
PK's are not quite Gods though felt to be by S Goreans

PK's are more of an advanced race --- could be argued N see through the sham in their Norse forms of worship

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 15:04:57 pm CDT
with that I close EForum for this week. Thanks to A/all for attending.

Thanks to all for contributing to 3 most interesting topics

Kisses the scribe

ruby~{Randolph}~t 15:05:33 pm CDT

smiles to Master Lionhearts vast knowledge

meral{Bretval} 15:06:12 pm CDT

Thank You Jarl for leading

thank you lovely ruby for scribing



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xx Re: Euro-Forum notes..26-March-2017
« Reply #2 on: Mar 27th, 2017, 11:26am »

Bretval {meral}: 15:06:49 pm CDT
My thanks to You for leading Randolph and to the lovely gemstone of scarlet for scribing

Kazar~infamous pirate.~{sei} 15:07:24 pm CDT
Randolph thanks for leading and gemstone for scribing

*Sophie* 15:08:08 pm CDT
Thank You for leading Randolph

thank you for inviting Me back ruby and for scribing...blows a kiss..x

ruby~{Randolph}~t 15:08:26 pm CDT
thank You my Jarl leading a very a most informative EForum...kisses

ruby~{Randolph}~t 15:10:25 pm CDT
rolls up the sacred scribe

as always a pleasure to serve my Jarls Home
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