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xx Euro-Forum notes..17-September-2017
« Thread started on: Sep 17th, 2017, 4:03pm »

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Jarl Randolph - Moderator
Master Bretval
Master Austin
Master of one
Master Frederick
Master Mark

rykl{Keeper}~t
tamara{Kyoto}
meral{Bretval}
ayli{Dak}
riss{GS}
swtpea{Frderick}
rose{WanderLust}
chessie
ruby{Randolph}~t - scribe

ruby~{Randolph}~t 13:36:20 pm CDT
poises nib to finely milled rence parchment - listens intently

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:37:00 pm CDT
W/we have a topic. just a reminder of the rules, keep all greets to whispers, keep to the point, no extraneous chit chat, be polite, all are encouraged to give their opinions and comments.

ruby is scribing so be gentle with her.

meral{Bretval} 13:37:45 pm CDT

~sapphires lift as she turns her attention to Jarl Randolph~

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:38:29 pm CDT
Topic 1:

How in GS can we avoid unintended confrontations and either hurt feelings or anger ... yet at the same time educate others about the rules and protocols of O/our H/home ??

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:39:10 pm CDT
Well this is certainly topical with the events of the last week

ayli{Dak} ~chain sister to libi~ 13:39:25 pm CDT

turns her attention to Jarl Randolph

Austin - Scholar- 13:40:02 pm CDT
Yes.. as I will be listening a lot for the wisdom of others..

~♡ {ms. rose} WanderLust ~♡ getting stronger bound by love ~♡ 13:40:19 pm CDT
listens to Jarl Randolph and Oothers quietly

ruby~{Randolph}~t 13:40:33 pm CDT
agrees my Jarl the topic is prudent..considering the events of late

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:42:48 pm CDT
In My view a polite and respectful manner in all conversations can go a long way to helping things along. The use of bad language or calling of names to me is unacceptable

tamara{Kyoto} 13:43:31 pm CDT
i think it comes down to...as a recipient about being told protocols and rules of the home. it's for both people involved to behave like adults.

ayli{Dak} ~chain sister to libi~ 13:44:16 pm CDT
this girl agrees with tamara on what she said

Bretval {meral}: 13:44:35 pm CDT
When possible it is best to speak in Whispers... but Yyou need to be talking to someone open to listening and learning

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:45:05 pm CDT
agree entirely, tamara. In many cases it is not what is said but how it is said that causes the issues

Austin - Scholar- 13:46:07 pm CDT
Nods with Randolph... politeness and respectful manners is really important.. Also if someone has said something that causes you angst.. maybe take a deep breath... and not publicly but privately ask the person to explain the reason for saying something that you perceive as unacceptable

Master of one 13:46:16 pm CDT

I think It is incumbent on the newcomer to come in with good intentions, knowing they don't know the ins and outs of Oour Home

ruby~{Randolph}~t 13:46:31 pm CDT
agrees tammi..your point is well taken

admits ruby was so embarrassed by the events in the Inn last Thurs...how can Wwe recruit if Wwe can not control Oour own tempers?...we must lead by example imho

tamara{Kyoto} 13:46:47 pm CDT
Jarl Randolph and many, i am not saying a lot, many words spoken here on the screen can be taken with a "tone" that isn't there. because one can't read a tone through the written word.

~♡ {ms. rose} WanderLust ~♡ getting stronger bound by love ~♡ 13:47:15 pm CDT

listens and observes

Master of one 13:49:09 pm CDT
Well said tamara.... I personally use a lot of ~ smiles and ~ laughs to make sure something comes across correctly

Austin - Scholar- 13:50:01 pm CDT

Agrees with tamara.. and nods with MO1....

Bretval {meral}: 13:50:42 pm CDT

~nodding to #One~
I normally do the same

Master of one 13:50:51 pm CDT

Some personality conflicts ruby, you just can't change or control

riss {GS} 13:52:37 pm CDT
Slipping in quietly for a few minutes

Greetings Aall

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:52:47 pm CDT
I agree with both Tammy and Mo1, however, in some case there is downright rudeness

ruby~{Randolph}~t 13:53:50 pm CDT
true enough Master of one...that happens in any chat venue

however...one can control Oones temper...or should be able to...keep nonsense drama in private not public

Master of one 13:54:06 pm CDT
Yes, Randolph

How long do We tolerate name calling and rudeness??

Master of one 13:54:57 pm CDT
you would like to think that ruby

Austin - Scholar- 13:55:08 pm CDT

Agrees with ruby... I don't like to show my dirty laundry in public.. private is better and maybe have an honest conversation without others getting involved..

meral{Bretval} 13:55:17 pm CDT
agrees with ruby

Ssome are just not willing to abide by the rules and protocols of GS.......what then?

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:55:33 pm CDT
Any one can fly of the handle from time to time but when it becomes habitual then it should not be tolerated.

ruby~{Randolph}~t 13:56:10 pm CDT
because of the actions of a few

Wwe may of lost the best and most knowledgeable Slave Master...Master Thadron

~♡ {ms. rose} WanderLust ~♡ getting stronger bound by love ~♡ 13:56:57 pm CDT

may i speak?

Austin - Scholar- 13:57:27 pm CDT
ruby I would hate to see Captain Thadron leave U/us.. I truly respect Him with His demeanor and knowledge

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 13:58:02 pm CDT
rose, of course you may speak

Master of one 13:58:30 pm CDT
please do rose

Master of one 13:59:58 pm CDT

Good question mea

Bretval {meral}: 14:00:38 pm CDT
It would be a great loss for GS of Thadron was to leave again..

and I regret any part I may have had in His thinking

~♡ {ms. rose} WanderLust ~♡ getting stronger bound by love ~♡ 14:01:27 pm CDT
nods shyly.. as a visitor to gor .. i try very hard to follow the gor rules as i know them.. if in doubt i say nothing or ask Oone of Ffriends i have here in private.. if really in doubt or feel uncomfortable or cause issue i leave as not to one disrespect my Master or two to cause issues for a place i am visitng with Ffriends here

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:02:35 pm CDT
Very well put, rose, regrettably not A/all think and behave as you.

Master of one 14:02:45 pm CDT
It would be nice if Aall visitors were so respectful rose

~♡ {ms. rose} WanderLust ~♡ getting stronger bound by love ~♡ 14:02:53 pm CDT
i mean feel uncomfrotable or feel issues will be caused i leave

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:03:11 pm CDT
rose

your a good girl..Wwe all know that...perhaps Your Master is not Gorean..however He is respected highly

~♡ {ms. rose} WanderLust ~♡ getting stronger bound by love ~♡ 14:05:12 pm CDT
Jarl Randloph shy smile thank You for Your kind words.. master of One Yours as well

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:05:42 pm CDT
indeed Master of one

it comes down to respect

Austin - Scholar- 14:05:59 pm CDT
rose you have always represented your Master and yourself well

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:06:14 pm CDT
It would be tragic for GS to lose such a fine and respected Member who has the interests of GS at heart by some who appear to have destructive elements in wanting to change things.

I do not think Bretval, that you have said anything to reproach yourself (that I have seen). Again, saying honestly from the heart and in a polite manner should always be acceptable.

~♡ {ms. rose} WanderLust ~♡ getting stronger bound by love ~♡ 14:06:15 pm CDT
rublit thank You dear.. i glad he is and well Master would exept that from me to be polite and kind.. especally visitng other places

Austin - Scholar- 14:08:50 pm CDT
Bretval I personally think that you always have in mind what is best for GS... your heart is where is should be ... "How can I make GS better for Aall"

riss {GS} 14:10:11 pm CDT
Looking at the clock she jumps up and runs out to rt..
Well wishes Aall.

Bretval {meral}: 14:12:22 pm CDT
Thank Yyou Randolph but I feel I contributed to the need for this Topic... so much so that I wrote this

"Thinking about statements I recently I made in the corks I realize I may have exceeded My prerogatives as a Pledged Patron of Gorean Shores, if so, then I wish to apologize to the Members of the Council of Captains. As the old saying goes 'Speak in haste, regret at leisure'.

Bretval {meral}: 14:13:22 pm CDT
And I thank You, Austin

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:14:43 pm CDT
Maybe Bretval, but I go along with Austin's comment - thinks you may have been caught up in the cross fire (unintentionally)

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:14:50 pm CDT
ruby thinks perhaps Wwe may have become soft

in Gor
Masters should be Masters
slaves should be slaves

where the Free are always right

~♡ {ms. rose} WanderLust ~♡ getting stronger bound by love ~♡ 14:17:48 pm CDT
Wwe are all perfectly imperfect and to ere is human.. i am not sure what happened after i excused myself from the beautiful dance of rublit's.. however i do hope it sorts itself out shy smile



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xx Re: Euro-Forum notes..17-September-2017
« Reply #1 on: Sep 17th, 2017, 4:39pm »

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:18:39 pm CDT
unfortunately..ruby has observed slaves being insolent..thinking about their own needs

slaves are here to please the Free, not vice versa..slaves must adhere to that philosophy

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:19:30 pm CDT
thank you rose..grinning

~♡ {ms. rose} WanderLust ~♡ getting stronger bound by love ~♡ 14:20:20 pm CDT
your welcome rublit

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:20:26 pm CDT
agrees ruby, the trainers have a responsibility here, but so of course, do the Free

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:21:35 pm CDT
aye my Jarl..imho..Wwe are All responsible for Oour own actions

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:22:27 pm CDT
of course, ruby, but W/we can influence others.

Austin - Scholar- 14:22:50 pm CDT
So many times Oone forgets that what they do has a rippling effect.. It reflects upon GS.. the council.. if a slave her master or trainer... and lastly themselves.. Too often they forget about how it effects others...

Bretval {meral}: 14:22:50 pm CDT
On the whole I agree, ruby...but another incident that may not have be in the scrolls involved an HNG and threatening tamara for her obeying her Master's wishes... again it comes down to respect not being shown by an HNG

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:23:42 pm CDT
that's insightful tammi

you nailed it my sister

we as slaves are our own best trainer

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:25:00 pm CDT
true enough tamara, the trick is to always have them behaving that way.

~♡ {ms. rose} WanderLust ~♡ getting stronger bound by love ~♡ 14:25:11 pm CDT

listen and observe quietly as she is visiting

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:25:37 pm CDT
Greetings chessie

Topic 1:
How in GS can we avoid unintended confrontations and either hurt feelings or anger ... yet at the same time educate others about the rules and protocols of O/our H/home ??

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:27:40 pm CDT
Any further comments??

meral{Bretval} 14:28:07 pm CDT
None from mea thank You Jarl Randolph

ayli{Dak} ~chain sister to libi~ 14:28:39 pm CDT
none from ayli Jarl Randolph thank You for asking

Austin - Scholar- 14:28:44 pm CDT
None from Me Randolph

~chessie 14:30:00 pm CDT
Don't know how much chess can get across as to what she feels. Not everyone that comes here knows everything from the get go. They make mistakes, sometimes quite a few of them... And it takes time, and a lot of work behind the scenes to get that person reined in....

I would just hate to see GS lose not only Master Thadron, but anyone who at some point could as well become a valued member of this home

Bretval {meral}: 14:30:05 pm CDT
Nothing more, Randolph

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:30:15 pm CDT
As a summary there seem to be a number of points

1) Politeness is key to behaviour here.

2) Both Free and slaves are responsible for their own actions

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:30:23 pm CDT
nothing more my Jarl

however if Wwe lose Master Thadron..because of nonsense drama..it would be a tragedy..a true pity for the Free and slaves as well

~♡ {ms. rose} WanderLust ~♡ getting stronger bound by love ~♡ 14:30:33 pm CDT
nope Jarl Randolph.. though thank You for inviting me .. rose has fulfilled her promise to You to come to e forum and make it through a whole one lol shy smile

Bretval {meral}: 14:32:27 pm CDT
Indeed it would be, ruby.. for a too brief time Thadron was My Mentor

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:32:33 pm CDT
W/we have a second topic, in some ways leading on from the last one

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:32:33 pm CDT
W/we have a second topic, in some ways leading on from the last one

~♡ {ms. rose} WanderLust ~♡ getting stronger bound by love ~♡ 14:33:01 pm CDT
that was meant to be No Jarl Randolph grubles at my typist

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:33:24 pm CDT
Topic 2:

Is there an additional role for Mentors?

Frederick 14:34:09 pm CDT
-enters quietly and settles in-

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:35:19 pm CDT
at the moment...the esteemed Council has not appointed Mentors

that said...Wwe all mentor in some capacity

Austin - Scholar- 14:35:20 pm CDT
Bretval.. Thadron would be a great mentor to have..

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:36:51 pm CDT
yes ruby, I had Thorrn as an 'unofficial ' Mentor who guided me through the first few months of being around here. Some others, both Free and slaves were also helpful

Bretval {meral}: 14:38:40 pm CDT
Mentors did first need to be one of the Captains, Randolph and the Member asked one of the Captains to Mentor Him... I am not sure if that is still the rules

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:41:19 pm CDT
I have always felt that the Free are so 'Free' at times it can be difficult for them to settle with one assigned Mentor. I think if a Free wishes to learn He will do so from asking questions and learn from A/all, both Free and slaves.

~♡ {ms. rose} WanderLust ~♡ getting stronger bound by love ~♡ 14:41:22 pm CDT
shy smile i beleive having Mmentors or good Friends to suport Yyou along the way in any place vt or rt is good and benifits to the well being and health and hapiness to Aall shy smile

~♡ {ms. rose} WanderLust ~♡ getting stronger bound by love ~♡ 14:42:32 pm CDT

i know i had good Mentors and good Friends that have helped me in my journey Both v/t and rt

~♡ {ms. rose} WanderLust ~♡ getting stronger bound by love ~♡ 14:43:30 pm CDT
i good support system is vital to the emotional well being of Aall.. when OOne feels that is not in place Oone only suffers

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:43:49 pm CDT
yes my Master

agrees whole heartedly

read the web pages..don't assume the rules and protocols..learn them well

Mark 14:44:18 pm CDT
~steps in to learn about the forum~

Tal Free and slaves

~♡ {ms. rose} WanderLust ~♡ getting stronger bound by love ~♡ 14:44:20 pm CDT

shy smile i dont know much about the Mentorship here but i would assume it help the free as sisters help the slaves

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:44:46 pm CDT
I agree rose, I suspect some are too proud to listen and take advice. Then there is a problem

Bretval {meral}: 14:47:38 pm CDT
I agree on the whole Randolph... whether official or not asking experience Pledged Patrons or even a slave trainer is a good beginning for Aanyone... particularly New members

~chessie 14:47:56 pm CDT
some aren't too proud... they do listen to offered advice....

but also, it seems that once One has made a mistake, they have Others watching for the least little thing to pounce on.... Everyone deserves a chance to redeem themselves..

there once was a Free who came here, made about as many mistakes as He could have.. offended most everyone... but thanks to a FW... and some slaves to i suspect... He became one of the best Captains chess can remember..... but he had to be given that chance. and not jumped on everytime he opened his mouth

~♡ {ms. rose} WanderLust ~♡ getting stronger bound by love ~♡ 14:48:36 pm CDT

nods Jarl Randolph i can not speak on the Mentorship here as it not my place as i am visiting .. however what i spoken is my experince as a submissive and rt..

Austin - Scholar- 14:49:24 pm CDT
Agrees with what Randolph and Bretval says.. I still ask a lot of questions.. It a long journey to become familiar with the ways ... and know all the protocols

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:51:02 pm CDT
a good point chessie, everyone makes mistakes, and they deserve to be given some slack. The issue arises when there is a deliberate attempt to 'do their own thing'

tamara{Kyoto} 14:51:49 pm CDT
i just think everyone needs to realize at some point everyone is new and mistakes will be made even with a mentor. it's just if they try to fix those mistakes or not. a mentor is a good idea, but it even goes back to the slave thing, everyone is their best teacher and will learn or not learn if they so choose to do so.

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:52:17 pm CDT
Any other comments on this topic??

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:52:38 pm CDT
yes rose, good to see the girl here

ayli{Dak} ~chain sister to libi~ 14:52:54 pm CDT

none from this girl Jarl Randolph

~♡ {ms. rose} WanderLust ~♡ getting stronger bound by love ~♡ 14:53:38 pm CDT
shy smile Jarl Randolph thank You for inviting a girl long time ago.. i now fullfiled my promise too.. shy smile .. thank You for Your kindness

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:53:40 pm CDT
my Jarl

nothing more from Your beast of burden

Bretval {meral}: 14:53:43 pm CDT
no more from Me

Austin - Scholar- 14:54:17 pm CDT
None from me



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xx Re: Euro-Forum notes..17-September-2017
« Reply #2 on: Sep 17th, 2017, 4:43pm »

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:55:17 pm CDT
Good, on that note I close EForum for this week. Thanks to A/all for attending and contributing

Kisses the scribe

ayli{Dak} ~chain sister to libi~ 14:56:11 pm CDT
thank You Jarl Randolph for leading
thank you ruby for scribing

Austin - Scholar- 14:56:16 pm CDT
Thank you Randolph for leading the Forum

ruby thank you for scribing

~♡ {ms. rose} WanderLust ~♡ getting stronger bound by love ~♡ 14:56:57 pm CDT

that Yyou Bboth for Leading and scibing

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:57:00 pm CDT
mmm..meets my Jarls gifted kiss

thank You leading

Bretval {meral}: 14:57:02 pm CDT
My thanks to You for leading Randolph and to the lovely ruby for scribing

Jarl Randolph - GS Advisor - Owner of ruby~ 14:57:04 pm CDT
There will not be an EForum next week as W/we will be having an E timed Festival event in the Tavern

Regrettably, I will not be able to attend. However, Bretval will lead and I wish A/all well for the evening.

I will attend the other E times Festival events

Frederick 14:57:59 pm CDT
TY Randolph and ruby

ruby~{Randolph}~t 14:59:17 pm CDT
rolls up the sacred scroll quickly

as always a privilege to serve my Masters Home
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